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[–] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (21 children)

Joe Rogan is a caveman, but I hate this mentality.

I've had a ton of horrible experiences with doctors. Misdiagnosis, given bad medication, bad medical advice, etc. A common trait all of them had extreme arrogance. They all thought they had all the answers, and that modern medicine was infallible.

If you had an issue they couldn't put a clear label on fairly quick or weren't responding to treatment in a textbook way, then that was somehow your fault. Either you were lying, or exaggerating, or it was all just in your head.

I'm not alone in this experience. Basically every American with any sort of complex health issues has had a bad experience at the hands of someone who claims to be an expert. That's on top of the medical establishment letting bad medicine go on for years, because they are extremely reluctant to admit they don't have all the answers.

Obviously, none of that makes Joe Rogan any sort of intellectual or trusted authority on anything except bro science. How you can't expect people to have unflinching trust in doctors when doctors let people down so often.

[–] owl@infosec.pub 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Doctors sadly are drilled to produce results in an industrial manner. Strange edge cases are relegated to research, but if a doctor has to work off many patients, a patient who needs thought or patience is just irritating.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago

Sounds like we need to rethink how we educate doctors - considering we need more.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Doctors sadly are drilled to produce results

Really? How?

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I'd say it's currently an issue of the medical system being vastly overwhelmed. We don't have nearly enough staff to handle the many health crises in the country, and it doesn't help that many preventable cases get ignored for a long time (out of fear of overpaying) until they require far more extensive treatment.

As such, doctors don't really have a choice but to rush their visits and take overbooking.

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