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https://archive.ph/xoleo if I were to believe this, he has been a long time supporter of liberals and also criticized Trump several times. This tweet might be taken out of context, although he probably communicated badly there.
By the way, that article is extremely suspicious. It's the only article submitted by that user. It seems like a planted damage-control article.
True.. How about this one? https://insights.priva.cat/p/a-follow-up-on-does-proton-still
I do feel like that article mirrors my own feelings about the situation in a lot of ways, and doesn't try to overly downplay his actions but instead characterizes them as "extremely ignorant/uninformed" about Trump and the Republican party.
I can fully understand that perspective and agree with it for the most part, but for me that's why I find it inexcusable. If you're not willing to put in the most minimal amount of effort into looking into who Trump and the Republican party, then just don't make tweets like that. You're talking out your ass to a large audience and providing this rectally derived opinion unprompted. The dude just praised a rapist and a party that is breaking laws to give that rapist as much power as he wants. I can't think of any situation where being uninformed or ignorant would be an excuse for that.
I agree.. I just don't think its enough to compromise Proton as a company as a whole. I still hope they are legit about the privacy and customer protection. But yeah, it doesn't look good when the CEO is behaving like this.
EDIT: I also try to acknowledge that I spend too much time online (reddit previously, now lemmy) and from that perspective its so obvious what a shithead Trump is, but looks like a lot of "normies" are still not caught up with that reality yet. What I'm trying to say is that I try to remain more levelheaded about how people view Trump or Republicans. A lot of people were still thinking Musk is a genius (and I don't mean genius in scamming) even less than a year ago.. hopefully they catch up eventually.
The E Jean Carroll trial that proved Trump raped her* ended in 2023. And he was convicted in early 2024 for 37 counts of felony fraud. Those are just the most recent cases among many others over decades. I don't think anyone should get a free pass based on ignorance for making any statements about Trump.
Neither do any "normies" get any pass if you're in the US. Though, I do know some people that are staunchly against even thinking about politics, that's the only kind of example I could think of that would be an excuse, but that's a whole other problem of willful ignorance.
But yeah, I won't fault anyone for not wanting to jump ship just yet from the CEOs absolutely brainless tweet and then his horribly poor attempt to excuse it. But if you're going to offer Proton as an option then I do think it's important to inform people of that, without trying to dismiss it, so they can make the choice for themselves.
*Not technically fitting that states strict legal definition for the court to convict, but the judge made a statement saying that it was rape in the common sense
I understand that but it's kind of what i'm saying.. if I wasn't on reddit or lemmy, I probably wouldn't even know about it, since I don't really particularly care about Trump. I assume most people don't. Yes, the CEO of Proton should know better because that's his job, but in general I think people just really don't care and don't know. I think a lot of people just consider Trump a loud idiot, without giving much consideration into how dangerous him and his party is or what kind of felonies he has been convicted for.
Hmmm I dunno. You'd have to be pretty disconnected and highly uninformed. But that's my point, too. If you know that little, and then make any kind of statement about Trump or the Republican party, then that's entirely on you.
Plenty of Trump's current regime has criticized Trump. And now they're licking his boots. So, I'm not sure that's a exactly a great argument.
I think its a better argument once you consider Proton has donated a lot to liberals and to support Ukraine and that the tweet was specifically about antitrust enforcement against Big Tech. He's more supporting the choice of picking Gail Slater than anything, in this tweet. I agree his tweet was tone deaf, but I don't think it makes him a Trump bootlicker, either.
The fact he's stating that 'Republicans are the party for small businesses' in itself shows how absolutely ignorant he is and willing to drink their bullshit.
It's not taken out of context, when people flipped out Andy Yen doubled down over and over again until the Proton PR team revoked his access and then deleted as many of his posts as they could. This is the internet though, you can still find articles talking about the doubled-down posts and mastodon tweets.
Doubled down on what exactly? https://archive.ph/xoleo/88d8a1711806e6c7efcb3e92c1b041c72a6024e7.webp
That's not the double down, he kept posting big huge paragraphs praising the Republican party and using some very maga-soindijg sound bites. I'll try to come back to this later and provide some sources that actually reference some of the now-deleted posts, I'm currently stuck in a waiting room. Not gonna try to do that level of research on a phone lol.
Do you have any links to the articles and mastodon tweets? I can't find anything atm. EDIT: https://archive.ph/2yWGz
https://insights.priva.cat/p/a-follow-up-on-does-proton-still
https://www.reddit.com/r/AMADisasters/comments/1i2a8wy/protonmail_ceo_supports_trump_appointee_users_are/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i1zjgn/so_that_happened/
https://techstory.in/proton-mail-faces-backlash-over-claims-of-political-neutrality-amid-ceos-praise-for-republican-party/
https://insights.priva.cat/p/a-follow-up-on-does-proton-still
Went through these.. didn't really contradict anything I said, imo. I mean, yes he seems naive in believing that republicans could somehow be more against big tech than democrats... but at the same time, the corporate capture is pretty bad in the USA overall (by bad i mean way too overextended). If anything, Andy just seems single minded about the issue of big tech and that makes him naive about republicans, but it doesn't look like he is actually supporting them.. yet. Like, he foolishly says what is on his mind with zero regards to optics.
Yeah I'll see if I can find some later on.