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[–] Darkmoon_UK@lemm.ee 92 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (5 children)

Weird hill to die on perhaps; but I'll never forgive Microsoft for arbitrarily deciding to not support my Core i7 6700K 4Ghz CPU on Windows 11.

Simply because: I cannot find a single actual technical reason why it wouldn't be compatible (yes, my mobo also has TPM). It's even higher specced than many other 'supported' chips.

MS apparently just decided I hadn't spent enough money lately. Well now I won't - on your products - ever again, while this i7 will continue to run Win 10 for games and Linux for all else.

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

assuming you use steam, see which of your favorite games run with proton compatability layer and which absolutely require windows. You may be suprised.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

WINE works surprisingly well too. I've seen people talk about gaming on Linux using Lutris or launching it through Steam as a "Non-Stean game" but I just put my files in my WINE directory and have better success.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Gaming is great on Linux nowadays btw. I installed Fedora a few weeks ago and haven't had a single problem with any of my games - I'm getting better framerates, too.

[–] Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

My GPU runs out of memory if I try to play DRG on linux (fedora), Zerotier and XLink Kai run but won't connect or plainly don't work inside the games I've tried with, and the mumble server just won't work (even using the docker) because it seems my motherboard's network isn't compatible or something, so if I want to use Linux I'd have to upgrade my pc anyway.

Gaming on Linux has taken huge steps, but I'd hardly call the current state as great, it's ok and improving, but still requires tinkering and knowledge beyond just turning it on, installing and using... And something might not work because fuck you.

[–] detun3d@lemm.ee 1 points 26 minutes ago (1 children)

You're also describing what happens on Windows. Gaming on PC requires some tinkering and knowledge. If you want to turn a machine on, install a game and play it you'll buy a gaming console.

Regarding Mumble, Zerotier and XLink Kai, sorry to read that. Hopefully there'll be something in their docs that help you or other alternatives you can switch to. Deep Rock Galactic can be a bit of a resource hog, but there's probably a solution for that too. Have you used the latest community recommendations on it's ProtonDB page? https://www.protondb.com/app/548430?device=pc

[–] detun3d@lemm.ee 1 points 19 minutes ago

Three consecutive replies because of an app I'm testing. Sorry about that.

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Any reason you went with fedora? I've been partial to fedora for a decade, but last I knew it wasn't recommended for a daily driver given the upstream fuckery from redhat.

Asking cuz I'm about two weeks from kicking win10 in the dick and moving to alma or something.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'm actually using Nobara, but it's not very popular so I just say Fedora in day-to-day conversation. From my understanding, Fedora-based distros play better with Nvidia GPUs.

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Best of luck to you my friend. Like I said, fedora was my go-to for years, and I regularly fought against the Nvidia drivers and kept going back to windows.

I'm running AMD now, so I'm hoping my experience is better than it was when I was using nvidia

[–] zod000@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 hours ago

I'm responding to you, but this is more for others to see since you moved to AMD.

I used Nvidia cards for many years on Linux and only recently switched back to AMD. The main issues I ran into with Nvidia were related to driver updates breaking things rather than things not working in general. So, I eventually found that holding Nvidia drivers to versions that worked without issues was the best bet and only updating them on occasion after they had been out for a bit and the consensus was that they weren't breaking stuff.

[–] zerosignal@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I have that same issue. My older laptop barely misses the cutoff, even though everything meets the requirements except the cpu. I have a newer laptop with Win11, and the old one runs circles around it. It's faster and has way more RAM, yet somehow won't run 11? I'm going to keep it and just run Linux instead. I'll use the crappy Win11 lappy just for MS office and keeping papers from blowing off my desk.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'll use the crappy Win11 lappy just for MS office

LibreOffice works very well. I use it often in a company that uses Office exclusively, and I've never had a compatibility issue.

[–] zerosignal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I use power query and so far haven't found a replacement that works in Linux. Otherwise I would drop MS office altogether.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 13 points 4 hours ago

I'm in a similar boat. My computer meets all of the other requirements like TPM and whatnot, yet they are arbitrarily deciding that my processor is too old. And for some reason you can walk into your local computer store and buy a laptop with the shittiest processor and other specs possible that somehow runs Windows 11. Just because the processor on the new shitbox was manufactured more recently. Ridiculous.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)
[–] turnip@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)
[–] dance_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I figured it was related to the hardware architecture, but I'm curious if this is for security reasons (potential exploits that the OS can't resolve) and/or just a support bandwidth concerns managing 2 OS code bases (on top of the obvious revenue from new licenses).

If the hardware security isn't the issue, then switching to Linux is a good money saving choice for those that are tech savvy.