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[–] Saint_La_Croix_Crosse@midwest.social 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

You are right, that centrists don't actually sit as a 50/50 middle. But that means that "centrists" always actually side with fascists and the far right when forced to take a position. If you aren't fully willing to confront capitalism, it means that you will side with fascism before even mild socialism.

[–] lookupgeorgism@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Fascism is not the same as capitalism. For capitalism to work properly, it is required that market power is minimized and that companies cannot influence politics. The fact that they have been able to do so is not capitalism.

Milton Friedman – In Capitalism and Freedom (1962), he argues that government intervention should be minimal and that businesses should focus on profit rather than lobbying for special advantages. While he doesn’t explicitly state that capitalism requires private companies to stay out of politics, he warns against corporate influence leading to cronyism.

Adam Smith – In The Wealth of Nations (1776), he warns against “the merchants and manufacturers” using their influence to gain monopolies and special privileges, which distort free competition. He emphasizes that capitalism works best when businesses do not manipulate laws in their favor.

James Buchanan (Public Choice Theory) – Buchanan and other public choice theorists (like Gordon Tullock) argue that when businesses influence politics, they engage in rent-seeking, which distorts market efficiency. They emphasize that government should limit corporate lobbying to prevent economic inefficiencies.

Luigi Zingales – A more recent economist, Zingales argues in A Capitalism for the People (2012) that corporate political influence undermines free markets and leads to a system of “crony capitalism,” where economic power translates into political power.

[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Am I understanding you right that you are saying that all centrists will side with fascism over socialism? Because I have some news for you in that case.

Actually, it sounds like I have news for you if you don't think that's the case.

[–] phlegmy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

That's your opinion, not a fact.
And the issue with that is you're only seeing it as two sides and a fence-sitter.
Centrists form their own views and positions, independent of the parties on either side.

There's no forcing them to take a position, they already have one.
And when they have to vote for/against legislation changes, they'll side with whichever option aligns most closely with their views.

US pseudo-centrism is right wing though, which might be what you're confusing real centrism with.