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Social media without banning legal stuff (lemm.ee)
submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by Wanpieserino@lemm.ee to c/buyeuropean@feddit.uk
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Hello, is there any social media on this planet that does not ban people for things that are completely legal in all of the European legal systems?

Or is the fediverse the best choice because even though if moderators guide public opinion on the mainstream instances, people can still go to a smaller instance for refuge.

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[โ€“] gaael@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Because you are usually subjected to a lot less abuse when you're a ciswhitehetmale in a NW country.
This usually leads to a different need for safe spaces, like-minded communities and blocking people than oppressed groups.

[โ€“] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm a minority (autism), I don't need a safe space.

I need people to stop being authoritarian and communicate with eachother.

If only minorities were authoritarian, then there would be no issue. Since they'd be just a minority. It wouldn't be noticed.

It's clearly the majority that deal the blow. Logical, right?

[โ€“] gaael@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm a minority (autism), I don't need a safe space.

Thank you for sharing your personnal experience. I am glad that your personnality and life experience don't make you feel the need for a safe space, that's uplifting.

This being said, other people from minorities seem to have a different viewpoint and consider safe spaces are important/necessary. The fact that some individuals don't need one doesn't negate the need (and right) of others individual to create these safe spaces.

I need people to stop being authoritarian and communicate with eachother.

That's great, but it's also within peoples' rights to choose who they want to communicate with and to filter that by interest, values or other factors.
I find it important that depending on my energy levels and my mental health I can choose who I engage with.

If only minorities were authoritarian, then there would be no issue. Since they'd be just a minority. It wouldn't be noticed.I.
t's clearly the majority that deal the blow. Logical, right?

I'm not sure I understand what you mean there, could you explain a bit more?

[โ€“] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The latter part. Minorities do not have power. They just do not have that. So their actions are barely noticed.

If only minorities were authoritarian and block communication channels, then nobody would notice it. It would be a rounding error.

This is because they are only a small amount of people.

Women aren't a minority, they are half the population. But according to many, they are a minority. This is wrong.

If women want a safe space from men (they do, female only subreddits ban more than male only subreddits) then that's fine, but it's not because they are a minority.

In this day and age everyone feels like a minority and likely are minorities. But that's only a part of them.

I'm autistic (minority). I'm male (equal), I'm European (majority on this app, minority in the world).

Okay now.. if I were to be a marxist leninist (minority in the western countries) so I create a safe space.

Okay but we have dozens of political ideologies. They all are pretty much a minority then. Definitely because they vary across countries.

Giving each ideology a safe space because they are "a minority" neutralises eachother. They all are.

In reality, just like the way a government gets formed. People need to communicate and compromise.

Blocking communication stops growth, and hence I do not like this culture of bubbles/echo chambers on Lemmy.

Got no clue how to alter that, or if there's social media that doesn't create echo chambers by blocking those that do not fit in there.

[โ€“] gaael@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

Women aren't a minority, they are half the population. But according to many, they are a minority. This is wrong.

I believe our disagreement partly stems from semantics. English is not my native language, and I have used the term minority as a shortcut for oppressed category.

If only minorities were authoritarian and block communication channels, then nobody would notice it. It would be a rounding error.

Idk how it is elsewhere, but in France, when trans people or black people (which are oppressed categories and numerical minorities) claim they want to have safe spaces that exclude cis or white people, it's definitely noticed. Almost everytime the majority (oppressive category and numerical majority) go on crying that they are excluded and should not be and try to pry these spaces open.

Okay now.. if I were to be a marxist leninist (minority in the western countries) so I create a safe space.
Okay but we have dozens of political ideologies. They all are pretty much a minority then. Definitely because they vary across countries.
Giving each ideology a safe space because they are "a minority" neutralises eachother. They all are.
In reality, just like the way a government gets formed. People need to communicate and compromise.

I know of no minority that exists only in safe spaces. We always have to meet other people, be it family, work, doctors, public events....
About your exemple, being a marxist leninist and having no space where you can meet other marxists leninists to debate theories or future actions and being constantly in interaction with right wingers sounds tiring.

Blocking communication stops growth, and hence I do not like this culture of bubbles/echo chambers on Lemmy.
Got no clue how to alter that, or if there's social media that doesn't create echo chambers by blocking those that do not fit in there.

Lemmy being what it is, you're more than welcome to create a community of like-minded people (people who want to communicate with everyone, not marxists leninists ofc) and advertise it on general channels to make it grow the way you think is best :)