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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fourth. You forgot about the "Kelvin timeline" Star Trek films.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

I remember right before Discovery aired they showed a few behind the scenes pictures and one of them included the Klingon uniforms.

Me and a lot of other people started saying “Did they steal those from the Abrams movies?”

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn’t that be 5 then?

  • TOS
  • ST: VI
  • TNG
  • ST: Kelvin Timeline
  • ST: Discovery
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Interesting point! Had to look up some screenshots, but it does look like they were maybe trying to "bridge the gap" between the TOS and TNG-era Klingon look in that film, which I am going to be watching again after this meeting in order to verify.

Even if it's an intentional transitory look, I'll agree that it's still unique, and therefore counts. Great call.

[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 7 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I'd say there are up to 8 designs, depending on how much you want to nitpick:

  • TOS: Smooth. Unnaturally smooth.
  • TMP: Single column ridge with hair on either side. Behind the scenes the concept was that the spinal column continued up from the back all around the head.
  • TSFS: Ridges cover the forehead, are wider and flatter, and have a continuous hairline behind them. Female Klingons have substantially less pronounced ridges.
  • TUC: Chang has those same less pronounced ridges. Maybe it's not a male/female thing. Or maybe Chang is trans?
  • TNG: Those less pronounced ridges are gone. Male and female Klingons both get roughly the same degree of lumpyness.
  • Kelvin: Ridges look flatter and more pleated. I don't think we see any hair, but it's been a while.
  • Disco: Coneheads, quadruple nostrils, and no hair.
  • Disco S2: Partial retcon as the Klingons start growing their hair in and the heads appear less conical.
  • Picard/SNW: Fully revert to the TNG era look. Doesn't count since it isn't a new design.
[–] phx@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Enterprise also had slightly different looking Klingons and IIRC addressed why (a genetic disorder or disease IIRC)

[–] T156@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

In Enterprise, they made an augment virus that went wrong, and to avoid going the way of the Illyrians, they made a cure, that basically turned them human/into the TOS Klingons.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

This is starting to feel a bit too nuanced.

[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 4 points 22 hours ago

Yeah, like I say, it's pretty nitpicky. I'd probably collapse everything from TSFS to Kelvin into one, if I were being more lax. I don't find the Kelvin design to be all that different from what came before, but I do find TMP to be really distinct in comparison. But I know some people who seem to be the exact opposite on that, so 🤷