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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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(Sorry, not sorry for the old yet still valid meme)

I just wanted everyone here to know that !theorville@lemmy.world has been ~~taken over~~ relaunched by me and will become an active community again!

In the name of interplanetary peace, everyone here is invited to sub if you have not already done so and to start posting whatever news/discussion/memes related to The Orville you can think of.

I'm going to add .world's c/startrek and c/tenforward to the links section of our community and I hope you guys do the same.

Happy Arbor Day! (No, seriously, the 25th of April is actually Arbor Day.)

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[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I tried The Orville, but got a little put off by McFarlane as the captain.
Does this improve as the series goes on?
As I might give it another shot.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 1 points 11 minutes ago* (last edited 8 minutes ago)

It does get better, and Ed becomes a lot less wishy-washy.

The conceit of The Orville is that it’s not the best ship in the fleet with the best crew. The Orville is an older mid-sized cruiser and the only reason Ed made Captain is because they couldn’t find enough Captains to fill out a rapidly-expanding fleet. So they gave this unimportant ship to him.

I think they spent way to much time on Ed getting over his divorce with his XO Kelly, but after that he’s fine.

As for the show itself, only the Pilot really feels like “Family Guy in space,” because that was a Trojan Horse to get the show on the air in the first place. After that, it really does become a send up to The Next Generation and the 3rd season, New Horizons, is an actual science fiction epic.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

McFarlane as the captain? No it/he doesn't improve.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They need to make more Orvilles.

[–] FlyingSpaceCow@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)
[–] teft@lemmy.world 71 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

My face when I realize the crossover meming potential:

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 44 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The Orville was sweet justice for Penny Johnson Jerald as an actor. She has been so good and used so well as Doctor Finn.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 47 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

[–] teft@lemmy.world 51 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 17 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

It has all been downhill since the late 90s

[–] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago

Fuck, Agent Smith was right.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 7 points 15 hours ago

I put 9/11 as the beginning of the end.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

Finn screaming is already a meme.

[–] AlexisBlackbird@lemmy.ca 60 points 19 hours ago (8 children)

Discovery gets more hate then it deserves, but The Orville is certainly more of a Star Trek show. I'm glad I stuck out the rough start (which is on brand for a Star Trek show lol)

[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 3 points 4 hours ago

Strange new worlds is legit though

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 33 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

Discovery gets more hate then it deserves

I think the problem is the writers clearly had a show that they wanted and for some bizarre reason they decided that it was also going to be a Star Trek show even though they clearly didn't actually want it to be Star Trek.

If they just made it its own thing it would have been fine, but all this Star Trek lore kept popping up and then they had to come up with some hand wavy explanation for why their particular vision doesn't fit established canon, and the whole thing just didn't work as a result.

I would have been totally down for a "magic exists alongside the sci-fi technology" show. There's a lot they could have done with that concept, but then for some reason they kept trying to introduce Klingons into it.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 21 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

but then for some reason they kept trying to introduce Klingons into it.

Ones with a third different head shape, no less!

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Fourth. You forgot about the "Kelvin timeline" Star Trek films.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

I remember right before Discovery aired they showed a few behind the scenes pictures and one of them included the Klingon uniforms.

Me and a lot of other people started saying “Did they steal those from the Abrams movies?”

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn’t that be 5 then?

  • TOS
  • ST: VI
  • TNG
  • ST: Kelvin Timeline
  • ST: Discovery
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Interesting point! Had to look up some screenshots, but it does look like they were maybe trying to "bridge the gap" between the TOS and TNG-era Klingon look in that film, which I am going to be watching again after this meeting in order to verify.

Even if it's an intentional transitory look, I'll agree that it's still unique, and therefore counts. Great call.

[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 4 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I'd say there are up to 8 designs, depending on how much you want to nitpick:

  • TOS: Smooth. Unnaturally smooth.
  • TMP: Single column ridge with hair on either side. Behind the scenes the concept was that the spinal column continued up from the back all around the head.
  • TSFS: Ridges cover the forehead, are wider and flatter, and have a continuous hairline behind them. Female Klingons have substantially less pronounced ridges.
  • TUC: Chang has those same less pronounced ridges. Maybe it's not a male/female thing. Or maybe Chang is trans?
  • TNG: Those less pronounced ridges are gone. Male and female Klingons both get roughly the same degree of lumpyness.
  • Kelvin: Ridges look flatter and more pleated. I don't think we see any hair, but it's been a while.
  • Disco: Coneheads, quadruple nostrils, and no hair.
  • Disco S2: Partial retcon as the Klingons start growing their hair in and the heads appear less conical.
  • Picard/SNW: Fully revert to the TNG era look. Doesn't count since it isn't a new design.
[–] phx@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago

Enterprise also had slightly different looking Klingons and IIRC addressed why (a genetic disorder or disease IIRC)

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[–] AlexisBlackbird@lemmy.ca 3 points 17 hours ago

Agreed. It's a decent action scifi show that is hurt by trying to fit the IP. It did do some interesting things with the mirror universe, and some of the latter season parts where it takes nonsensical one off TOS concepts and completely seriously says "that's canon, let's build a plot point on it" were entertaining, if not good.

But it just doesn't get Star Trek and it says something that I tell people getting in to the shows not to watch it.

[–] SRo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 15 hours ago

It got the hate it deserved

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 26 points 17 hours ago

Scenery: repainted ikea furniture

vulcan / doctor / kirk: check

All extraterrestrial planets are shot in the back lot: check

Well, everything seems to be acceptable here.

[–] dan69@lemmy.world 23 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Excited for s4 oville!

[–] daddycool@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Me too. I would like if they packed a little more humour into the season, like season 1 and 2. Season 3 was a little too serious. It was good, don't get me wrong, but there were just a little too far between the jokes.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 8 minutes ago

The problem with s3 wasn't the seriousness - we had plenty of that everywhere else - it was the missing small moments. Those little filler moments they slipped into the episodic serials that picked out little threads here and there and brought such a very very heartwarmingly humorous and human element to the show. Bortus’ moustache. The random Karaoke. Talking shit in the mess, finding out a crewmember can eat anything and Gordon promptly producing a cactus and a dare. Latchkum!   Shit that made you invest in the characters.  The reminder that even in utopia we're still batshit humanity

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Is it happening?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Admittedly I haven't exactly been keeping up with the news but it's been radio silence for a few years now so I am kind of sceptical.

The fact that they didn't immediately go into season 4 after finishing season 3, which is what most shows do, kind of implied that the studio at least felt done with it. Which personally I think was short-sighted. You don't leave large gaps like that because it increases the likelihood that the actors are going to go off and get other gigs. It's not like they're being paid in the interim so they kind of have to.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

The timing was that Disney was in the process of transferring ownership of all the 20th Century Fox media to them right as The Orville would have been gearing up for a fourth season production.

What’s more interesting than them not immediately green-lighting it was that they never ever canceled it. Disney rattled off a list of Fox/Hulu properties they wouldn’t continue and The Orville was suspiciously absent. Seth confirmed later on that he was negotiating to continue the show and told fans to never say die.

And, yeah, the extended production timeline of season 3 is what made Adrianne Palicki (Kelly Grayson) walk. It seems like most, if not all, the rest of the principal cast is still onboard.

[–] lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Disney wasn't sure, the showrunners all wanted to keep it going.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 17 points 18 hours ago

Farscape: any chance you could send O’Brian over for some pure jet fuel?

[–] rah@feddit.uk 19 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I'm going to add .world's c/startrek and c/tenforward to the links section of our community and I hope you guys do the same.

Why?! They are totally different shows that share no similarities, do not share themes, do not share numerous details, share no actors, writers or directors and are just completely different, distinct SF shows!

/s

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 27 points 19 hours ago

This comment directed by Jonathan Frakes

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago

That's fantastic Aeronmelon! I've just added a link to our sidebar!

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 11 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Here I am a novice Trek fan booking the next few years to watching the rest of the Star Trek I've never seen ..... now I have to add this to my list

Thanks! .... and subscribed!

[–] NerdInSuspenders@leminal.space 8 points 18 hours ago

You’re in for a wild ride!

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 5 points 16 hours ago

Remember to add it to lemmy-federate.com

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 12 points 20 hours ago

Subscribed!

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