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[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 164 points 1 month ago (4 children)

"It's good, but we can't market it. If you were already famous in some other way so we could sell based on that, we would buy it."

Could have phrased it better, but I kinda get it.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 145 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"It's good, but we're bad at actually selling books so we need you to be famous in another unrelated way to compensate for our incompetence"

FTFY

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At least they know their failings and wont waste the authors time.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

"they" don't though. The low level employee/intern who read it might but that entire industry is up its own ass smelling it's own farts at the top.

[–] BoulevardBlvd@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

No you didn't. People don't buy the memoirs of random people. The publisher can move heaven and Earth but people still wouldn't change the fact that the audience will never exist

[–] Nefara@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Sure they do, all the time, as long as it's an interesting story.

More than half of the books on this list are by "random" ie, non famous people.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Who said anything about memoirs? The thing about "the memoirs of random people" is not that they were written by non-famous people - it's that they are about non-famous people.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

What about the people who were only famous for writing?

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Remember Oprah and a million little pieces. I'm pretty sure that guy was a complete unknown before he made that shit up.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (3 children)

"We won't publish you until you've been published"

Think about it

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I thought this was an entry level publishing

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

You can be other kinds of famous. An athlete, youtuber, etc. Even if youre trying to sell speculative fiction, some traction somewhere helps the process.

But yeah, it's shitty. It's really hard to make any money writing now.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

applies to the job market too

[–] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

So you run it by James Paterson, Inc. (or the estate of Tom Clancy or whoever fits best) get his name above yours and now you're contracted to release new novels at an absolutely breakneck pace,, but you have your foot in the door and can become the more famous writer who can release their own novels.

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would've thought "finding fresh talent" is something that publishers do out of self-interest, but I guess I'm wrong.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

this assumes the industry is vaguely competent and capable of critical thinking