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Trump warned he will impose additional tariffs on the European Union and Canada if they band together to “do economic harm” against the United States.

Get @#$%ed, Trump. Good read. Short but detailed about how partnered we are already and what our next priorities should be

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[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I dont think anyone from the EU is going to take concrete steps to a Canadian application, because they havent concretely ruled out that America wont physically invade it. Its an insane prospect, but this world is already insane.

Europe is already dealing with a hostile Russia, They can probably handle Russia alone, They can't handle Russia + America, so unless we're all ready to write it off and Blast each other with nuclear weapons, I think Europe has quietley agreed that if America does turn psycho, and the cost of keeping America Neutral, and not allied with Russia, is sacrificing Canada, they will Sacrifice Canada in a heartbeat. Officially, at least

Unofficially it will just be a fucking shadow war.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I dont think anyone from the EU is going to take concrete steps to a Canadian application, because they havent concretely ruled out that America wont physically invade it. Its an insane prospect, but this world is already insane.

The thing is, it's not actually that insane if you zoom out enough. We just convinced ourselves history was over, or at least over here.

Unless you know something I don't I suspect they'd still be open to a defence pact right now, especially with the American threats to Greenland as well. If we were to wait until it's imminent that would all change, and then it would be build nukes or bust.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You do know that "getting nukes" isnt a thing. right?

A country suddenly trying to develop a nuclear weapons program is something other nuclear powers will absolutely attack one over.

look at how many times Israel and the USA have nonchalantly bombed Iran,

the USA will never, ever tolerate a country in the Americas getting a Nuclear weapon, they'll Invade them like Panama or Grenada in a heartbeat.

Hosting Nuclear weapons of another country is about the farthest you'll get with that plan

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

We already have hundreds of tons of plutonium sitting in our spent CANDU fuel. We have plenty of expertise on what to do with it. They say it would take a couple months for us to put an arsenal together; delivery would actually be the harder part.

You're forgetting North Korea did it slowly and painfully without provoking an invasion. The main reason not to do this is that proliferation is bad, and that we don't want to be North Korea. Hosting or just generally having an agreement with a nuclear power would be much preferable.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

North Korea is bordered by two nuclear powers who both consider themselves rivals of the western democracies. They aren't interested in bullying the DPRK because they both see the DPRK as an asset in their fight against the west. Look no further than north korean troops and equipment being brought to fight in Russia and Ukraine

Russia is as far as I know. A full military ally of north Korea. And China tolerates them all the while.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 hours ago

And South Korea. It still seems like a counterexample to me.