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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 53 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So crazy that the Conservative Party still has 144 seats given that they've basically signed on to a policy of foreign occupation.

Feels like I'm watching liberated France send Philippe Pétain back in as the Loyal Opposition with 40% of the vote.

[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's not what their base believes. There is a whole other fantasy reality in their channels about how Carney has planned all along to cut a secret deal with Trump after the election. Other justification narratives probably exist as well, because they have to keep people believing that obviously, everyone knows we couldn't possibly do anything other than completely fold into Trump's plans. They spew propagandistic garbage like this and teach people to distrust legit media that understands context and checks facts rather than running with conspiracy theories based on flimsy evidence.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The conservatives still turned out a lot of votes. The left just voted strategically to keep them out. Next election the left will split again and we will get the conservatives again. Given the parties recent history even if it isn't Poilievre I'm sure they will pick another alt right sycophant.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Next election the left will split again and we will get the conservatives again.

Rather than settling for the investment banker, they could all rally around a candidate that's interested in social good.

The Left doesn't have to split.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The left has to get their shit together before that can happen. Right now the left cares more about purity tests over being effective.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Right now the left cares more about purity tests

People care about who they can trust. Far to much liberal politics revolves around lying, cheating, and scamming voters, donors, and activists.

You can't have a viable Left in a country that's too cynical to believe better things are possible.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not if we have ranked choice voting with proportional representation.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ranked choice doesn't make sense in a proportional representation system.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

It does if you still want to have a local representative, although everything seems to be party politics these days.

I'd be happy enough with proportional representation, though.

[–] jszym@cosocial.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] thefool@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

What's the difference between that and STV?

[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

More likely is the Conservatives will split back into 2 parties. The Progressives vs the Reformers.