The best times I had with any PVP shooter were always in the middle of the day on weekdays. It was always a bunch of working age guys like myself and that was the only time they had to play. Dudes were always friendly, games were always fun. 3pm Eastern hit and the fun was over, if it was Friday you were done playing for the weekendb unless you stayed up really late, even then, it was never as good.

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 12 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I blame matchmaking and the death of the server browser. Having a regular server you'd join to play for fun, rather than every game being an arranged esports sweat fest really, was the peak of FPS multiplayer.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

Being able to host your own game and tweak the rules however you like is a feature that’s sadly lacking from most console games nowadays, Halo 3 was the peak with Forge

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yep. Joining your favorite TF2 server on a Saturday afternoon and seeing that half of the server playing sandvich heavies, doing a conga line, having a full on philosophical discussion in the spectator chat, or annoying the engineers as a group of spycrabs was peak gaming

Edit : also trying to make the highest tower of players by jumping on each other (until some guy inevitably pulls up with a ulapool caber and blows up everyone)

[–] Zirconium@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I think that would be insurgency sandstorm. As far as I've encountered it's really not all that busy and is not filled with kids who just got off school

[–] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I was anticipating Killing Floor 3 which was a killer PvE in first 2 games, but third one was ass during beta so they postponed it until they fix stuff. KF is one of more fun PvE games out there.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

KF2 has some amazing animations for guns handling (and great feeling when shooting) that still hold up to this day. Such a shame that they ruined the art direction with all the shiny shit.

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 weeks ago

Its a competitive shooter/moba, basically none of the game would remain if it was transitioned into a PvE game.

There arent AI bots sprinkled in, there's just troopers and jungle camps, which either dont move or walk in a straight line down their lane. They aren't meant to be a challenge, theyre just tools for gaining souls and creating map pressure.

PvP is only rage inducing when you let it be. Mute whiny people and just enjoy yourself.

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It's designed from the ground up as a competitive multiplayer experience. A pve version would be an extremely different game.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

You see, this community just really hates PvP for some reason. Apparently playing games with other people rather than with yourself is an inconceivable concept to some. Unless it‘s coop that is. And I too love a good coop experience but PvP is quite literally the mother of all game types so it‘s strange to see how much hate it gets in this particular corner of the internet.

[–] kepix@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

pretty sure there will be a bot mode if the games comes out, or you guys bully the devs enough

[–] crestwave@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

PvE Deadlock already exists—it's called Risk of Rain 2.

The two games actually have a decently similar feel and it's no surprise that Valve eventually hired some of the RoR2 devs.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 4 weeks ago

you know I generally do not like pvp but I would not mind something like shadowbane resurfacing. With the city building and minimal rewarding of pvp it was not bad despite the fact that once you left the gates of one of the three safe npc cities you had snipers galore. Yeah most player cities were dicks but there was a few guilds that actually tried to make something for people to visit (of course then they got player griefers coming in to)

[–] yamper@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

the game is a moba, the pve sections are there to facilitate pvp play, like farming and map control.

id be pretty down for a coop pve shooter in the style of the old hero sieges from wc3 though: fighting off waves and waves of creeps until you get strong enough to push into their base while defending key objectives.

[–] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I love the concept of tower defense games where you essentially deal with waves of stronger and stronger enemies. Or Killing Floor with same concept, but in form of first person shooter. Games like this are super fun and entirely devoid of stupid sweaty pros that fuck up every PvP game ever.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Here's hoping KF3 doesn't suck (unfortunately the odds don't look too good currently)