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[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 65 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If it was just him, it wouldn't be that bad. Kinda like Bush Jr. The problem is that he surrounds himself with yes-men. I'm sure you've seen meetings with him and his orbit. He says something, stupid as hell, and his cult claps, stands, cheers and/or laughs like it's worthy of a Nobel. It's seriously deranged behavior. It's a cult. Except he's just grandpa sundowner everyone agrees with to get in his good graces, or a child spouting nonsense while the parents just go "that's nice dear" absent-mindedly. He's so easy to fluff.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I feel we also devalue Bush jr. for the way he chose to speak to people. I feel you could call Bush a smart man, even politically savy, while still talking like a layman. However, Trump is genuinely dumb like his speech implies, and people just roll with it.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I feel you could call Bush a smart man

No.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Bush Jr was very good at recalling people's names he met at some event years ago. That's more a memory feat than intellicence, but useful in politics. My impression is that he wasn't a stupid man, but instead, one of average intelligence, also lacking in intellectual curiosity.

By contrast, Trump is as dumb as a bag of hammers, couldn't find his ass with both hands, a map and a flashlight, and yet he believes he's the smartest guy in the room, which wouldn't even be true if the room only contained him and a housefly.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

I used to think that Trump was just dumb. But, recently I've become convinced that he's actually able to seem smarter than he actually is. Meaning, he appears to have an IQ of maybe 90, but he's faking it because he's actually closer to 80. His various coping mechanisms allow him to seem smarter than he is, but that "smarter than he is" still doesn't bring him up to average.

[–] blargle@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He was dumb but playing dumber. I can't think of many other examples of people like that except Joe Rogan.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, that I can get behind. His Texan shtick was an obvious act. But, even without that, I don't think he had an IQ of 100. Like most politicians he had good emotional intelligence, and an ability to connect with people. Still, it was clear that even pretty basic concepts were a stretch for him.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There was a Histioriometry test done, and the journal Political Psychology estimated around a 119 for ol’ W.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

And Trump weighs 224 lbs with 4.8% body fat.