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Regardless of where you are, can we all agree that no one's really perfected the electrical outlet yet?
NA plugs make contact without being fully seated, and can leave their live and neutral pins exposed. Worn outlets just let plugs fall out of them (I have 3 or so outlets in my apartment that are borderline unusable because of this).
British plugs are bulky and turn into caltrops when dropped on the floor.
European plugs have the same problem. And you only get like, one outlet per receptacle? Guess you're shit out of luck if you wanna plug anything else in the same spot.
Most of the rest of the world just copied Europe or the UK.
I like Denmark's plug though. Cute lil smiley face.
Euro plugs are perfect. They connect well, have no live metal exposed, power strips are safe, it can handle 230V Without a problem. They are being copied everywhere because they are well designed.
I think the Swiss have the best Europlug-based system. Their three-conductor plugs have the same footprint as basic Europlugs, which makes for very dense plug arrangements. Unlike e.g. the German Schuko plug they only fit in one orientation so you get no polarity issues.
It's pretty neat.
I prefer the Tesla system. Wireless power. But yeah, something with Edison or something. And these days Tesla is a nazi thing so never mind I guess
Not an issue, you can swap line and neutral freely. It becomes an issue if you want to use three phases and a three phase motor (because the order of phases is important) but that is covered by other sockets. Plain old Schuko is one phase, LNG.
EDIT: thought about it some more, yeah, devices with switches on L may be pose a shock risk in some cases if you swap.
What do you mean by polarity issues? AFAIK alternating currents don't have a polarity.
That's not quite how AC outlets work. Line and neutral can intentionally have different potentials relative to ground depending on how the house's electrical system is designed. This can become relevant in certain situations like very simple devices (think "lamp socket with a power plug").
A plug that can't be inverted makes this a non-issue.
(Edit: Added missing "not".)
Orientation of hot vs neutral
Those 3 way plug outlets are pretty cool
I do prefer English plugs. Euro can wear out or just not hold in as well if they're cheaply made. Never ever had that issue with English ones.
Never had that issue with euro plugs. Downside of UK plugs is there's only one orientation you can plug them in. And those plugs are really chunky. I have many synths, with many power plugs, I wouldn't know how to plug them all in at the same time. I would need maaaany power strips. Also, the flat wall plugs in the UK can wear out and not hold that well. I've been in old B&B's where plugs would just fall out. Eu plugs are sunken so always hold properly.
The standard amount of outlets per receptacle here (Sweden) is two. Maybe in very old houses it would be only one, but that's rare. If you run into that, there are splitters that make one into two, you don't need to have an extender to split it.
I don't think it's fair to judge plugs by how they behave when dropped on the floor (unless they're exposing live wires). Do you often have a lot of loose plugs lying around? If you find yourself unplugging things a lot to turn them off, you may be interested to hear the switch was invented not long after the light bulb for exactly this reason.
i like the compactness of this triple-plug design used for Type-J, used in switzerland and lichtenstein, although it missed some other points (no insulated pins, no on-off switch, etc)
Most connectors I have use partially insulated live/neutral. Ground is optional and completely uninsulated where it's present for safety.
Also, recessed receptacles hide the most dangerous parts.
Cables going in 3 directions? Who can live at that speed?
Does NA not have insulated pins? Where a half inch of so of the pin nearest the plug head is insulated so when plugging in the exposed part of the pin is inside the hole before the pin makes contact with live power?
Lol, no.
Ah well, it's been the law here for 20 years.
I'm also reading about how our NZ/Australia socket was based on an American 125v socket design, later upgraded to allow 240v.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS/NZS_3112
See. That's the kinds of things we could did if we had like... A government that worked. 20 years ago our politicians were less worried about our safety and more worried about spying on us
It's a right of passage for a kid to learn what a 120 volt shock feels like if they're careless in unplugging something. One pin is just an unforgettable sensation, while both will knock you down. The real mystery is why code requires the outlets installed upside down. Technology Connections did at least one video on the differences of outlets in the world, and his point was that if the ground pin was above the other two, something falling on a partially exposed plug would rest on the harmless ground and not what it can do, short out the two live pins. But then we wouldn't get the cute faces, so...
That isn't code. 2:25
His point is that this is incredibly unlikely to ever actually help, and it's largely an urban legend.
Lol a 120V circuit won't knock you down. You'll be surprised but that's about it.
Source: electrician. I've been shocked plenty. Also, the other fellas right, that's not code re: orientation.
You say that, until you get a surprise tickle up on a ladder and accidentally punch yourself in the face. Ask me how i know :)
Glad to see another electrician on here!
that's cute. nah tho. the pins are just… out there. ready to kill you
It does not. Some devices may have that on their plugs, but it's certainly not standard.
One night when I was 14, I tried to plug in my phone charger beside my bed in the dark and was accidentally touching one of the pins when it made contact.
Fortunately, I wasn't completing the circuit and I was electrically isolated laying on my bed, so I didn't actually get shocked. But I did feel a buzz in my finger like you get from those prank toys that shock the victim. That's a sensation I will never forget.
Not defending our plugs at all.
Pffft, us Aussie have perfected it.
Your plugs look like they are an anime frowning girl with a sweat drop on their forehead.
I always saw them as a little ghost face going OooOoOOOOOooooOoo
UK plug for sure is amazing, the caltrops is just to get you ready for standing on Lego.
Don't let that fool you, it hides a dark secret
AU outlets sound pretty good by comparison. I'm sure there are improvements to be made, but I never have any of those issues.
UK plugs seem to have a few good design details.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=139Q61ty4C0
My only problem is it’s difficult to plug them in blind because not all power boards and outlets have the ground pin depression to feel for
England perfected it
The Brazilian plug has none of those problems...
Also, what European plug are you talking about? There are quite a few models there.
re: european outlets number: we usually just get an extender with multiple ports, i have 5 of those in my small flat