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I say do nothing, as per another reply I made ITT.
Just because Trump hurts Americans with his beloved increased taxesโi.e. increased tariffsโdoesn't mean we should hurt our own people with the same. The MAGAts might enjoy that sort of masochism, but we don't.
Forget physical goods, hit us where it really hurts. Use the intellectual property clause, and start cracking down on Big Tech.
The US makes all its money with power projection through its services, so fuck them up. Please.
And for heavens sake, Europe would be healthier with a little less Twitter and fewer fees payed to the US.
This would be the perfect time to call out their hypocritical extension of copyright through recent trade deals.
American tech companies have made fortunes by violating licensing and copyright laws. Force Uber and AirBNB to buy taxi and hotel licenses. Put an intellectual property tax on AI. Prosecute Paypal for banking without a charter, ban cryto as illegal currency... the list goes on.
That's another good idea;
and this would actually benefit most Americans.
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maybe have a 20-something-European entertainer calling himself "Kid Rock" who who does covers and derivations, decked out in EU stars, who publicly burns the American flag, and if he's a transman, even better. ๐
"Whatcha gonna do, MAGAts? Sue me? I live in Europe, where we have Freedom. not in USSA!"
I believe the economics agree, but the diplomats don't. I am hoping the economics are the reason the eu is taking their time to respond.
We don't hurt our own people. Europeans shouldn't be buying US groceries anyway, there's no need to.
The only thing that is largely inescapable is software, and that mostly affects businesses anyway. The USians will hurt way more.
I think this is a good idea. Trumps just fishing for a reason to backdown on Ukraine weapons deal. If this does nothing he will find another way.
It seems ignoring him hurts his pride the most. No real response is needed anyway. EU has the whole process ready. Just take the map marked "Trump tariff", look in the index for 50%-75% and start from there. Probably the first step is a wait period for when he charges his mind yet again.
The real secret weapon against trump is taking his toys away. No one's managed to do it but I want more than anything is to win back the house and senate, take his Qatar plane away and use it for humanitarian aid.
I will fall asleep tonight dreaming of only this one thing.
The responses are usually surgical. Last time EU also targeted Republican voting states with Sanctions
Thank you, this is something I've been screaming from the rooftops.
Trump doesn't care about the American people who will pay his tariffs. China doesn't care about Chinese people paying their tariffs on US goods (although there are probably fewer US imports to China anyway). The EU does care about its people, and shouldn't tax them with tariffs.
Tariffs only work if you can prevent the local harm (eg Canada were going to tax electricity exports, the US can't stop buying electricity so Canadian businesses wouldn't lose sales) or to at least have a plan beforehand to reinvest in local businesses that can replace the imported good.