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As tensions escalate between California and the Trump administration over immigration, another potential battlefront is emerging over taxes.

The spat began with reports that the Trump administration is considering cutting funding for California's university system, the largest higher education system in the nation with about 12% of all U.S. enrolled students.

In response, Gov. Gavin Newsom wrote Friday afternoon in a social media post that California provides about $80 billion more in taxes to the federal government than it receives in return.

"Maybe it's time to cut that off, @realDonaldTrump," Newsom said.

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[–] cattywampas@lemm.ee 92 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I don't think there's really a way to do this, since federal taxes are paid directly to the fed without state involvement. This is just to poke the bear, which I am all for.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I've been thinking about this, and I'm afraid I agree. I'm not sure how you could enforce this. Paying federal tax seems like a personal choice and the consequences would be felt by individuals (tax evasion charges, unless trump manages to get it treated as a terrorist act). I'd be interested to see if the state was actually offering to shield CA citizens from being arrested by federal agents or subpoenaed by federal courts.

Also, for the most part the Fed already has our money, right? The majority of that federal tax is withheld from paychecks and goes directly to the Fed...

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You can withhold paying your federal taxes from your paycheck. Most people don't because they don't want to get stuck with a big tax bill in April with no way to pay it if they spent that money or lost it on a bad investment. if enough people all did that at once, regardless of state, it could put a big financial burden on Trump. The government heavily relies on this steady source of income, and unless you make a lot of money, you are probably getting a federal return every year, which means you gave the U.S. Government an interest free loan of sorts.

[–] malank@lemm.ee 1 points 9 hours ago

You also get hit with an underpayment penalty if you do this and don’t pay estimated taxes too.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 75 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Companies, no. But the state employs a lot of people.

[–] duckworthy36@lemm.ee 33 points 1 day ago

And county, and cities

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago

Still, the feds will come after the individuals, not the state.

[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 37 points 23 hours ago

The hypothetical way to do it is severely penalize companies within California that pay federal tax. Make it so financially burdonsome they have to relocate or stop paying federal tax of their own accord. This is just what's been suggested before when this has come up.

[–] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good. Keep poking until he has a heart attack. If he recovers, rinse and repeat until we get it right.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I’m all for it too, but keep in mind that successors to dictators are never better; only worse. It only ever gets worse.

~Hide your kids. Hide your couch!~

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

This dictator is the leader of the GOP, a cult of personality. That's not easily replaced

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This dictator is merely a puppet; plain and simple. The real Palpatine is someone else. Maybe it’s Putin, or maybe it’s Thiel. We haven’t gotten to that episode yet.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

But this puppet is who the cultists at the bottom support. They won't get their support for anyone else so easily, if they even need them at that point.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I would argue that now that the GOP has all three branches of government, Darth Trump is expendable.

[–] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 15 points 23 hours ago

Yeah but there seems to be something about this fucking guy. I don’t think his successor will have the same draw.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 17 points 1 day ago

Yeah, given his history and it's pretty fair to assume Trump doesn't know that

I thought you were going to talk about the physical improbability of cumming buckets.