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Is it just me, or is there a distinct lack of subtlety in right wing propaganda campaigns recently?
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I see they’ve found their new N-word after DEI-hire
i bet none of them would answer the same way if you asked them what a 3rd world country is
No chance that more than a fourth of them realize it’s from the Cold War and originally mean nations that were neither in the sphere of Soviet or American interest. They just think it means poor country with brown people
The Soviets, eastern Europeans, CHYNA, Cuba and North Korea are 2nd world. Odd that they would omit those countries from their rhetoric ..
Well, as the Warsaw pact doesn't exist anymore, there are no second world countries.
The countries still exist .. in one form or another
But the alliances don't, which is where the term came from. If you're going to get pedantic about it, it's odd to be so selective.
Yeah, I'm the one being pedantic, gas light much?
I thought it just meant no nuclear weapons
I believe that would exclude Canada, Aus, and NZ which are pretty firmly considered first world.
First World: “the west”
Second World: countries contested by the first and third that routinely had/have their sovereignty violated. Integral to “domino theory.”
Third World: socialist/communist nations
Edit: lmao don’t whiskey and lemmy yall. Flipped second and third
Second World was the Soviets. 3rd world was India and other non-aligned.
lol yes thank you. Dumb flip there
I wonder who came up with this nomenclature. Certainly wouldn't be the ones who chose to call themselves 'first world' right?
Glad to see its no longer taken seriously in any sort of academic or intellectual context.
This one is a lot more explicit, which is not a great sign(as if the rest of everything else right now was)
New? This has been used for decades.
I’ve never seen “third worlders”
Depends where you look. I've heard it from white nationalists in cesspits like reddit for the past 15 years.
I think your exposure level will come down to whether your demographic is more likely to be on the delivery or receiving end of racism in your region.
I can assure you I am as steeped in the online right as you are, and this was simply not a common term (until now apparently).
I don't know if its a common term among white fascists but I can tell you that I have personally seen nonwhite individuals described this way online and even in real life in more backwards parts of North America. This was more than 10 years ago.
Maybe its only becoming mainstream now. But racists have been talking like this for a long time. You may not be the kind of person they target so it would be hard for you to know.
Dude again I know what it means to say someone or something or someplace is “third world.” It’s the very specific “first worlder” term I’ve never encountered.
Sure bro, I hear what you're saying. I'm just saying that I've heard regressive folk refer to groups of people as third worlders since before 2015. Just because you haven't heard it doesn't mean it hasn't been said (especially if its not a phrase that would typically be directed at you with contempt).
"Third world" has been code for poor brown people basically since the designations were first made during the cold war.
Do you mean you've never heard the term at all, or just this very specific usage in this very specific instance?
Yes I know third world. I’m saying “third worlders.” This specific term. I’ve never heard someone called a “third worlder.”
It means the same thing, there's just an extra two letters added to the end. Were you shocked every time you first saw a cat with a color you hadn't seen before, too?
This is a crazy hill to die on
... then don't stab me repeatedly? I don't know what you want. I thought I was having a discussion, not getting into armed combat.
They aren't the same thing. "Third worlder" can be applied to a specific individuals that are from third world countries and, I suspect, will be applied to people not actually from the third world anyway.
Yes, it's the same thing applied to a specific individual. Generalizing does not make it less offensive.
I think you know exactly what I am saying and probably don’t even object, but you consider yourself too deep in the hole now to admit it. So I’m going to do the polite thing and give you an offramp here by ending the conversation before you make an even bigger ass of yourself.