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Tesla’s phantom braking nightmare: lawsuits surge as drivers lose trust in Autopilot
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Hey here's a crazy idea: How about you just keep both hands on the wheel and drive your fucking car. And if it's in the USA, well over 90% of the people on the road don't even have a third pedal to negotiate. Put your phone down, keep your eyes on the road and in the mirrors, and drive your fucking car.
Pity they're putting robotaxis on the road soon. How well do you think this autopilot is going to work when there isn't anyone to put their hands on the wheel?
Part of the problem with teslas is they will sometimes do the phantom braking even when not on autopilot. My gf has a model 3 we bought back before F-Elon went full mask off, and there's a certain road we occasionally drive where the car will just slam on the brakes for no reason wherever another road joins the main one. We both refuse to use autopilot but it still does it with even normal cruise control active and sometimes even under full manual control. Its a serious problem. We'd replace the stupid thing if we could afford it but its devalued so much that its more affordable to just keep it.
Yeah, Tesla's don't have ordinary cruise control. They have adaptive cruise control and autopilot, which is adaptive cruise control + lane keeping. Both just use the camera. If you're hoping to rest your foot during a cross country drive, then you better prepare for it to lurch every time it sees a shadow. Once every couple of miles if the road has enough shadows.
Yup, its a terrible design. Every other automaker uses some form of lidar with the cameras, but elon says "HuMaNs DrIvE wItH jUsT eYeS". So we get this bullshit.
Edit: spelling
That's so scary. Sorry you have to deal with that. Stay safe.
Hey man I love a manual transmission as much as the next hipster...but I rented a Mustang EV last year and got to experience single-pedal mode and it's fucking glorious.
I've always been confused about the braking in single pedal vehicles. Like let off the gas and the brakes start, but what if you need to brake harder?
I don't know how the hell it works either.
I imagine since it's an electric vehicle, the motors either have electricity or they don't...so when they don't, if there's no clutch mechanism disengaging the wheel, it would probably "engine-brake" naturally. Engine-braking, as I understand it, is basically how regenerative braking works anyway.
Combine that with a CVT and it can make a pretty smooth deceleration.
Combine that with distance sensors in the front and it'll keep you from accidentally slamming into something.
I guess my problem is I don't trust sensors 100% of the time. If it engine brakes when I let off gas, great, but I want the option of braking myself to still exist.
Obviously there's still a brake pedal. I don't think they are actually going to get rid of it any time soon.
In single-pedal mode you can still slam on your brakes.
It's just...optional.
Idk someone was telling me there's a Saturn with just one pedal the other day. If its just a "mode" then ok.
There's still a Saturn?
Buy yourself a go-kart.
No, no, no, you see applying logic is just to radical. Instead just do what ever corps tell you and don't question it.