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[–] Metz@lemmy.world 148 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (7 children)

..virtual note takers? we don't even write our own fucking notes anymore?..

edit:

Okay, okay, I get it :D AI indeed has some uses.

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 155 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Turning meetings into emails in the least efficient manner

[–] four@lemmy.zip 66 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You get meetings and emails! Just imagine the productivity!

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

Once you get high enough in corporate hell, all work is meetings and e-mails about meetings. There is nothing else.

[–] tpihkal@lemmy.world 74 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Ngl, it's actually pretty handy.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 55 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Really don't know why you're getting downvoted. Getting a transcript and summary of an hour long meeting that you weren't at is so much easier than relying on someone taking and sending you notes.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 46 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Here, you can use mine. hands you my notebook full of furry porn sketches and stories

Ohh, you actually pay attention at meetings? Oof. ... So what do you think of my latest character?

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 22 points 20 hours ago

Why does it have three...? You know what, never mind.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 15 points 20 hours ago

I mean, I'll take that notebook. Pass it over.

[–] MrVilliam@lemm.ee 10 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

If you get sufficient value out of a 30 second summary of an hour long meeting, then why have the hour long meeting?

(h)(n) + (t)(p) = W
(h length of meeting in hours) x (n number of people in the meeting) + (t number of hours prepping the meeting) x (p number of people prepping the meeting) = W number of work hours spent on this meeting. Multiply W by the average hourly wage. That's how much money the meeting cost. And that doesn't factor in the cost of productivity loss because everybody could've been doing something useful with that time instead.

If it could've otherwise been ten minutes of writing an email and five minutes per worker reading and understanding it, then how is it anything other than an efficiency gain to just make that meeting an email? Instead, we're still putting the meeting together just to then pay in resources and possibly subscription cost to have the meeting summarized instead of just having the host do it in the first place.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Just an off-the-cuff example, a business review with a client. I'm involved in making the deck that's being shown, so I already know the talking points from our side; the only thing that's relevant to me is the client's response. The meeting might be 45 minutes of us presenting and 15 minutes of them responding, so if I can get a quick summary of those responses, I can save all that time.

[–] MrVilliam@lemm.ee 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, but you know how else you could give that information to the client and have them respond back?

By emailing the deck and asking for their thoughts.

We don't really need to coordinate having an hour window in everybody's schedule anymore.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 8 points 19 hours ago

Reading through a random deck is not remotely the same as watching a presentation

[–] CTDummy@lemm.ee 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Because this user didn’t attend. Meetings are generally long form and dynamic. Which can’t be done as efficiently in email. 30-60 minutes meetings are fine to attend in person (in terms of parsing information). Consuming that same information via video after the fact is a chore; as is relying on the note taking skills of another employee. I agree with the user you’re replying to. Note taking is one of the few things AI is decent at.

[–] MrVilliam@lemm.ee 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Okay, but imagine if everybody just didn't attend. If the quick notes summarizing the meeting are enough for everybody, then the meeting is a waste of time.

[–] CTDummy@lemm.ee 4 points 19 hours ago

If nobody attended, what would be getting summarised? I get what you’re saying, I’ve definitely been in organisations that had pointless meetings. “This meeting could have been an email” is a meme for a reason. Others though, it’s where different departments come together and share news/status, different executive/managers give run downs and updates about the company (e.g. chief of ops presents figures and areas that could be improved) and employees can ask questions about these or other pertinent topics.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 3 points 19 hours ago

I find the summaries pretty worthless but a transcript is super useful

[–] doctordevice@lemmy.ca 2 points 19 hours ago

This is all very true, and I agree completely. But you've overlooked two very important factors that I can think of:

  1. Many people attending these meetings do not have the authority to cancel them, and the people who do have the authority may not be receptive to this argument.
  2. Some people will benefit from assisted notetaking even if the meeting was worthy of the time.

I'm neurodivergent and when I'm writing notes my brain shuts off audio processing. I literally can't take notes without missing more of the meeting than I'm writing down. And unfortunately most people above me in the hierarchy can't fathom writing a message instead of speaking for an hour.

[–] homoludens@feddit.org 14 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

If I could trust it to consider the same points important that I do and have the same understanding of them.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 19 hours ago

They merely report what was said, nothing (much) more, nothing less.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 28 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Literally one of the only good apllications for AI.

[–] Prox@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Really?? All the AI note takers I've seen suck farts.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

The fans can just use regular air from the room to cool the computer. You don't actually need to fart into them.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 20 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

yeah. I had a 5 hour QBR this week with 18 in-person attendees and 7 virtual where we didn't even take a pee break. I was presenting 90% of it so it's hard to take my own notes. I give AI the transcript, the virtual note taker, and the slide deck and my personal notes and describe how I want the output and it gives me a recap of the highlights, discussion, action items that then I can email to stakeholders and to project mgmt to set up next step tasks in Asana.

The one benefit of AI I've actually found useful.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Transcribing meetings is quite useful if you want to quickly check something later on.

Summarizing that is useful to get the gist of it if you missed the meeting.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 15 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

at my last client's they used SAFe, which basically means they do "big agile". in practice, this meant that every tenth week was "meeting week". five days of only retrospectives and planning meetings, including a friday all-hands with over 400 engineers at once. i wish we had virtual note takers that worked.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

"So I'm going to need every 10th week as a vacation... I'm out of vacation days? Well regardless, I'm not showing up."

[–] lime@feddit.nu 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

that's the fun part about working in old european industry: we get six weeks, but everyone has to take them at the same time, and at that time the factory just... shuts down.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 15 hours ago

could be worse

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

You ever listen to a whole meeting? Not for me!