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These companies paid their employees a median wage of $31,672 in 2022, while their CEOs took home an average $15.3m

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[-] solstice@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

So again, capital gains tax is not income tax.

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040.pdf

Line 7: Capital gain or (loss)

Cant possibly get more clear than that.

Confidently incorrect as they say. The hubris of talking shit about technical subjects to an sme is just staggering.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's only short term capital gains tax. Long term capital gains is taxed at a different rate than short term. I literally already mentioned that.

Edit: to be clear, Schedule D would include sales of assets that aren't required to be reported on 1040. https://www.irs.gov/instructions/i1040gi you can follow the instructions there and specifically where it tells you how to choose different tax rates than, you know, the income tax rate.

Double edit: and id still argue you want the same as everyone. Changing the income tax rate wouldn't do anything. You have to understand that by this point. You'd need to account for things like capital gains tax and what not. Wealth tax is simply asking for higher tax rates on things like income or capital gains, etc. If you're a CPA, you have to know that if you're going to limit what can be taxed to simply and only the income tax rate, it's easy to hide income in things that are taxed differently. Things like foreign assets, etc. Again. "wealth tax" is not antithetical to what you want. But your claim (which you explicitly gave an income tax rate as your example for income tax) that everything goes through that income tax rate is absolutely false. I think you're just getting confused because these values get combined on one form in the end. But there's a reason there's a Schedule D. Because it's more complicated than just being subject to income tax.

[-] solstice@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

All capital gains and losses foot on schedule D line 16 and flows into 1040 line 7. The worksheet below breaks out items treated differently like section 1250 recapture, qualified dividends and LTCG:

https://apps.irs.gov/app/vita/content/globalmedia/capital_gain_tax_worksheet_1040i.pdf

It's all income, just different tax rates and rules.If you want higher LTCG tax rates sure, crank it up I don't care.

Wealth tax is NOT simply asking for higher tax rates.

Wealth tax typically includes unrealized capital gains. All unrealized gains eventually become realized one way or another. At that point LTCG tax or estate tax applies.

Taxing unrealized capital gains is a terrible idea. Wealth tax is a terrible idea. Income tax is just fine. Income tax includes realized capital gains. Crank that rate up if you want. Just no wealth tax. These are completely separate concepts.

Understand now?

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

the fact you even had to say "typically" means its a broad term that just means different things to different people. if someone wanted to tax unrealized gains specifically, they would say that. they didn't. they're essentially just saying they want wealthy people to pay taxes.

this has been repeatedly told to you. you even used a specific rate to describe income tax as being enough. that alone would have excluded your whole, now further expanded upon but originally excluded by definition, explanation.

this was also extremely clear from everything i said. multiple times. but obviously, like i said, multiple times, you're in agreement with me. you just have some hangup on the definition of an ambiguous word that the original user gave no further intent behind and just jumped to your own conclusions on nothing, despite being told, repeatedly.

do you understand now?

I'm done here. I can't believe you're arguing with someone who has repeated been on the same page as you. Nothing you've said is in disagreement with me (except my claim you're not a CPA). Its like you just want to hear yourself talk or "win" something. Especially after that childish rant about someone not responding to you on the internet. Honestly. You should be ashamed of that. I don't get it. Do you want the last word or not? It's behavior like that which makes me believe you aren't a CPA because you're not acting like a goddamn fucking adult.

So you don't get all stressed out or angry or need an extra call to your therapist, i'm not going to respond again, but I might downvote you just for fun. And honestly, why is an upvote without a comment ok but a downvote without a comment isn't? Someone can disagree with you and leave it at that. They don't owe you anything, you entitled ass.

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