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The GOP chair was caught off guard and scrambled—first delaying the vote, then trying to sabotage it by adding amendments to include Biden administration communications. Democrats called their bluff and agreed.

Then the GOP chair, Rep. Higgins, lied, claiming the motion FAILED until Rep. Robert Garcia forced a full roll call vote.

Ultimately, the vote passed 8-2 after 3 Republicans DEFIED their leadership and joined all 5 Democrats to pass the motion.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 273 points 1 week ago (5 children)

They even fucking lied?

Then the GOP chair, Rep. Higgins, lied, claiming the motion FAILED

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 146 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I'm not holding my breath but I'm really hoping that will help maga chuds clue in that the GOP are wholly dishonest.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 93 points 1 week ago (1 children)

10% of them saying it was wrong is the best we'll get. Him being charged with treason is what it should be

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Here's hoping that 10% are our fucking dipshit relatives eh?

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It has to at least fall under this:

"§1001. Statements or entries generally Whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States knowingly and willfully falsifies, conceals or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact, or makes any false, fictitious or fraudulent statements or representations, or makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any false, fictitious or fraudulent statement or entry, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 749 ; Sept. 13, 1994, Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1)(L), 108 Stat. 2147 .)"

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=49&f=treesort&num=1262

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If it has to be decided or enforced by the majority party or SCROTUS, then it’s not happening any time soon.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago

This won't even make the nightly news.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They don't care they just want to "win".

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Actually they just want to "own the libs". They'll all scream to have the Epstein files released if you hint that AOC might be in there.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago

I hear she is. Release the files, and let's prove it.

Of course they want to "own the libs". They believe people get more conservative as they age, so kids have to be libs. And they definitely want to be able to own & trade children!

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I get what you’re saying, but there are now two very distinct news spheres, and the one that they’re watching will simply not cover this story.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

It's in the hands of r/conspiracy now...

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 64 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I'm guessing Roberts Rules stuff.

As a quick and dirty thing, you can call a voice vote of ayes and nays. If it's not particularly close, it'll be obvious what the outcome is, the Chair will call the result, and everyone moves on. However, any member can call bullshit on the Chair, and then it goes to a more formal process.

So without watching the whole damn video, it's probably that the voice vote went one way, the Chair said it was the other, got called on it, and the roll call vote went against him.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 52 points 1 week ago (4 children)

2 people said 'nay' and 8 people said 'aye'... It was an honest mistake anyone could have made.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But wasn't it one person + himself? :)

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

Obvs his nay own would sound louder to himself

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I bet the voice vote was more like 5-5, and the Republicans changed when they knew their vote was being recorded.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Did you see the video? It was clear that the 'ayes' had it.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Oh, I didn't know the link would load without an account. You're right, it looks like nobody switched.

[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 29 points 1 week ago

I did watch the video and it was blatant and ridiculous.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Decorum for thee but not for me.

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why does this have so many upvotes? I mean the information is mostly accurate, but for this particular 8-2 vote it sounds like it's just trying to make an excuse for the treasonous Higgins saying the vote failed.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago

any member can call bullshit on the Chair

Yes, definitely making excuses.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

It's not making an excuse. It's explaining to people how he was able to lie. If it was an roll call vote it's next to impossible to lie about it, so it'd be confusing to some people who don't know how the process works. It's still blatant lying. It's just helping to educate people.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 24 points 1 week ago

MAGAs can't resist cheating at every opportunity. Here we are again with standard election fraud on a micro basis, but we're supposed to believe that they won the 2024 Election "Fair & Square?"

[–] Atlas_@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

This is unsurprising.

But forcing a recorded count does get those Republican Nays on record so they can be punished later.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I am puzzled by your incredulousness.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

I am perplexed by your puzzlement.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

I chose it for its pomposity. Seemed to gently fit the tone. 🤓