Just browsed r/conservative for a bit to see the response there. Pleasantly surprised to see multiple posts where the top comment was something along the lines of "release everything, don't care who is affected on either side"
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This is the most respect I’ve had for them in a long time.
When did you have ANY respect for them?
They made us think it was conservative versus progressive. Democrat vs Republican.
It always was the elite versus the people
Always has been.
It's also humans with morals vs. Conservatives. None of this would work if conservatives didn't salivate at the thought of making others suffer.
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What does this actually mean?
Republicans are hypocrites — and have to be forced onto the record defying Dotard Trump — even though he’s a rapist and a pedophile.
I think they're more curious what the effects of the vote will be.
That’s my point. It’s performative but also gets them on the record to expose the hypocrisy.
It's performative? So it won't actually cause the "subpoena ALL the Jeffrey Epstein files" as the post says? My point is it's just a little hard to see what the vote actually does from the context given, although I don't doubt there will be political fallout from it.
This is deeper than I care to expound upon but the simple version:
The democrats have been voted into a corner. They have almost enough power to be relevant but not nearly enough to prevent Republic卐n bullshit.
So, while they get blamed for every atrocity the conservatives force upon us, they have no other choice but to make the votes illuminate the right’s hypocrisy.
So, when they say they’re against something (Trump’s pedophilia in this case) and we all know that they’ll reverse course to please Dotard tomorrow, it’s nice to push the GQP into a corner and watch them have to choose the light.
When he was the only person to say no, and then claimed "the noes have it," that was the funniest gd thing I've seen all day. Hahahahahaha!
Can someone explain to this non-american why the Democrats are treating this as a successful upset when they could have released the Epstein files during Biden?
Because they COULDN'T release them under Biden. They were sealed by court order until January 2025.
There is a lot of desperate "both sides" nonsense going on here but the fact remains, Democrats are voting to release them and Republicans are not. If Democrats wanted to cover them up, why would they be doing that?
I don't see anyone saying this yet, but the Epstein files were sealed by a court order for Ghislaine Maxwell's trial. They weren't unsealed until January of 2025. Biden couldn't have released them without violating the court order that sealed them - and possibly giving Ghislaine's lawyers a slam dunk to get her off with a mistrial.
Here is seems to be at the discretion of the Attorney General. Why didn't Merrick Garland unseal them in September 2024 after her appeal failed?
Merrick Garland is a hard core libertarian centrist and Biden appreciated him for being status quo which means not rocking the boat or doing any effort to to hold anyone rich accountable as his previous bosses were BP and Amazon.
He also refused to prosecute Matt Gaetz.
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Because Merrick Garland is incredibly lazy. He spent his entire tenure sitting around doing nothing.
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It’s all bread and circuses until the 1% have extracted the last iota of capital from the rest of us and the country finally collapses.
Because they couldn't, or at least not without potentially ruining the case while it was before the courts at the time?
Politik-brained Canadian here:
IIRC they didn't raid Epstein till 2019. In 2020 Democrats had a narrow majority in the house which they would lose in 2022.
Than January 6, 2021 happened, and I think everyone thought that would be the legal case that brought Trump down.
It kind of seemed inevitable that the Epstein files would get leaked or released eventually. That is until Trump officially ran again in 2023; creating the possibility that the evidence would be destroyed permanently if he won.
just to tie on to this, theres a none zero chance some prominent democrat "old guard" are also on the list, and their positions are too valuable to be lost (to the status quo). january 6th, if it was enough, would have been a great way to protect the old guard and get rid of trump. but thats evidently not what happened.
i dont care whos on the list, from what side, i want them all punished. anybody whos complicit in the current shit show, or is on that list, needs to be shot in the street like a rabid dog.
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I came up with the actual vote in question directly from congress. https://www.congress.gov/event/119th-congress/house-event/118526?s=3&r=3
Here is the entire vote and all surrounding context. The supposed "lie" about the vote count is apparently made up for engagement bait by whatever anonymous jaggoff still trolls x on their call to activism account
Can you help me understand Motion #2 by Mace? I was lead to believe that "credible" wording didn't stick, but it sounds like you're saying it actually did? If so, then yeah it leaves a lot open to being left out of the subpoena on that one word alone.
Hey, you're right! That amendment got struck down! With all the back-and-forth in that video I must have lost track. Good check, thanks!
sooooo GOP chair who blatantly tried to defraud the American people in a cushy government position by abusing his position, he's tossed outta the swamp now, right?
or rather, into the new swamp down in Florida
3 Republicans: "I might be a racist, zionist(somehow), corrupt piece of shit that sits down when my fellow Americans are put into concentration camps, who is all for authoritarianism and white nationalism,.... but I ain't no pederass protector!"
a what, Walter?
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Hey, where's all those losers that kept saying the Dems didn't actually want it released? Come on out of the woodwork, ya fucking losers.
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I suspect a lot of the GOP also want rid of Trump now he's won for the second time.
They've put in their time. They're political lifers. They know they don't really need him any more, and frankly his health will take care of that sooner rather than later.
If he follows the rules, he can't run again anyway. If he doesn't then they don't need him to win elections for them, because there won't be any more. They're just stuffing their pockets while waiting for any opportunity to try and get in a bigger chair. Their only worry is that someday, lobbyists might not want to bribe them any more to do their jobs.
I suspect the list is being withheld for reasons other than Donald, who we all know is on it anyway. Plenty of more important shadowy figures who still have something to lose.
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They even fucking lied?
Then the GOP chair, Rep. Higgins, lied, claiming the motion FAILED
This is unsurprising.
But forcing a recorded count does get those Republican Nays on record so they can be punished later.
MAGAs can't resist cheating at every opportunity. Here we are again with standard election fraud on a micro basis, but we're supposed to believe that they won the 2024 Election "Fair & Square?"
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the single person who voted no: "In the opinion of the chair the nos have it"
the multiple people who voted "yes" laugh at the absurdity and call him out on it
how fucking brazen a liar
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