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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 69 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

The scary thing is, this graph is probably far too conservative.

Evidence is now emerging that indicates that warming has accelerated dramatically in the last 2-3 years. As in, we may see more warming in the next 10 years than we have seen in the last 50, with +3℃ happening just after 2035, and +4℃ happening by some time around 2040 to 2050.

You know what happens around +4℃? The extinction of all megafauna - animals larger than 45kg. Like humans. The entire ⅓ of the planet between the Tropic of Cancer and the Tropic of Capricorn will experience lethally high wet bulb temperatures across all regions for at least several weeks out of every year, rendering it permanently uninhabitable for the 4+ Billion people that currently live there. India is currently flirting with that reality.

And with that heating inertia, 2100 may see +8℃ temps, which essentially means ice-free poles year round (once things calm down), with palm trees and alligators at the North Pole. Of course, by that time chaotic weather and resource exhaustion will have killed off all remaining humans.

And the lovely thing about “moving parts” is that they all have this little thing called inertia… the faster they move, the further they go. And +8℃ is very close to the +12-15℃ that a Venus Scenario would be triggered by.

Past warming events have been “similar” in that they have gotten just as warm, but they took hundreds of thousands of years to get to the same place, allowing entire continent-wide ecosystems to quite literally migrate across thousands of kilometers to adapt. Our changes are happening in less than 0.01% of that time scale, giving ecosystems no time at all in which to react. So our biosphere will get slaughtered along with us, and will be unable to compensate in time.

And with the biosphere becoming overwhelmed by rapid changes, there goes the “friction” that could do something about that “inertia”.

And the worst part is, we still haven’t moved off of the worst-case-possible “business as usual” path. We are swan-diving into the worst possible future. Thanks to billionaires addicted to fat profit margins and who control all of the processes, we are utterly failing to generate the change needed to save ourselves, with CO2e production - purely human sources, excluding the feedback loops in nature!! - CONTINUING TO ACCELERATE.

Fun times. I just might live long enough to see humanity go extinct.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Not that renaming problems ever helps, but this is why I'm trying to push "anthropogenic runaway global heating" as a replacement for the weak formulation of "global warming" and the even weaker "climate change". It has the handy acronym of ARGH.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 2 points 19 hours ago

It has the handy acronym of ARGH.

Okay, that is hilarious.

I'm just going to call it "the climate shitshow" at this point, with how cooked we seem to be.

[–] snackwifi@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can you back up these claims? Not doubting, just curious/terrified to learn more.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here, feel free to simultaneously urinate and defecate into your pants:

All of this is evidence-based. All of this relies on facts.

Yeah, we’re f**king hosed as a species. Our legacy at this point should be in preventing a Venus Scenario, so at least life can continue to go on in some fashion

[–] snackwifi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Fucking sucks. Thanks.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yet "you have to have a car to work" like ok no for one fuck you for two we have several modes of transport AND energy sources now you actually do choose actively to diarrhea out carbon on purpose and I fucking see you

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 2 points 16 hours ago

Depends a lot on where you are from. Not everyone has the means to uproot and move to a walkable city or a city with public transport.

Our governments have fundamentally failed us

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I just finished reading The Deluge by Stephen Markley and I'm at the acceptance phase of greif.

Tardigrades will probably survive, and at least plastic pollution will be halted.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

We don’t exactly know where the tipping point towards a Venus Scenario is. We just know it’s somewhere past +12℃, and before +16℃.

And the problem isn’t so much that we will reach that temp - we will go extinct long before that point - but rather the warming process - with all of the feedback loops that it kicks off - will push the planet into a Venus Scenario.

So no. The planet is not fine. The “friction” of prior warming events that would slow its “inertia” - the slowly-migrating, slowly-adapting biospheres that continue to draw down CO2e - won’t have that capability this time around. It’s just all happening far too fast for them to migrate or adapt.

We have literally “cut the brakes” with the speed and inertia of the current warming we have created. And one very real consequence may be a dead planet with a superheated atmosphere.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe we kick off a nuclear winter before we go out

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

Honestly, if we’re talking about mostly or completely surface blasts, and not atmospheric detonations, that might be what saves the planet.

Nuclear winter is very much a thing by how the thrown-up dust reflects most incoming light, and with most detonations being in cities, the kicked-up dust would contain plenty of iron… which is the major limiting factor of phytoplankton, the largest single converter of CO2 to O2. All it has to do is fall out of the atmosphere and into the oceans during the spring to summer. So we need a late winter or early spring nuclear war.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So I suppose I just have 15 more years to live huh?

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 3 points 19 hours ago

I would say 10 of relative comfort, another 5-10 of increasing disasters (political, social, environmental, etc.) that tear apart civilization, and a final 5-10 of complete collapse where only small isolated communities still exist, and every day is a real struggle for survival against exceptionally hostile conditions.

Honestly, most scientific projections of resource exhaustion and environmental degradation point to 2050 as the point beyond which “civilization” really ceases to exist.

And honestly, I would be shocked if humanity still existed as any kind of a high-tech going concern much past that.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Yes there are some upsides