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Zionists are more important than your civil rights.
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British governments have a long and shameful History of supporting Racist Fascists no matter what they do, from Pinochet to the government of Apartheid South Africa. Even Hitler was supported (there's even a picture of the old Queen as a child being taught the Nazi salute by her uncle the then King) until he invade Poland.
Support for this specific Genocidal white colonialist nation mass murdering muslim children with authoritarian methods and de facto no concern for the civil rights of common Britons, is just the latest symptom of social and political regressivennes and even learned sociopathy amongst the British elites: they never really evolved beyond 19th century ways and "values".
Same as the US.
The US used to have a streak of "everybody can make it" (back when it had higher social mobility than all of Europe, which isn't the case anymore), whilst the UK's streak all the way from the 19th century was "you should know your place" and it only got broken for a short period roughly covering the 60s and 70s (which, not by chance, was also their peak artistic time, both in Music and the Performing Arts) when anybody did have a chance to make it no matter where they came from.
Outside that, the country was dominated by the upper and middle class who from my own experience living there for over a decade and given my own cultural references when I got there (Dutch and Portuguese) are pretty culturally backwards and prone to being performative in how they act rather than genuine (the contrast with the Dutch is huge), the higher the social class the worst (the culture amongst the "old money" upper class is nasty: for example they will gloat - in a posh way - about any display of weakness, even amongst themselves).
Society in Britain is so stratified into social classes (and, given the pretty much non-existent social mobility, means it's lifelong) that upper class people have their own accent, which is separate from regional accents. I know a number of spoken languages and this is the only country I know where the upper class has its own accent.
As far as I can tell the US doesn't have this deeply calcified social strata with a dominant upper class with unchallenged ideas of what is "prim and propper" dating back to the 19th century, towards whom most of the rest of society looks up and who even have their own schools and ancient univerties providng a well travelled path from Cradle to "Captains of Industy" for their children. I mean, the US does have such people and structures, but they're nowhere as dominant over society and the structures of power (for example, there literally are almost no Judges in Britain which did not attend one of such special schools as children) and what there is in the US hasn't been in place and doing their thing for well over a century.
I ment the US equally supported nazis (as they do today).
I also speak multiple languages Dutch/Flemish being mother tongue.
While the Brit posh accent is one of the most famous and noticably distinct other languages have it too.
Flemish nobility or royals, same as the French, have distinctly different accents from us plebs.
While the US historically doesn't have royals or nobility and hasn't been around for long time they surely have established their version of this old boys system, as you said.
I don't agree that they have less power over society.
Surely the Brit version is elitist and near impossible to get in, the US is more 'democratic' if you get in a wildly expensive ivy league institution.
If you're smart enough you might get a scholarhip but most important is that you sell your soul in return and do the regime's bidding, and abandon your working class background.
Nearly everyone of a certain level in politics or business comes from these institutions.
And their scope encompasses the entire US sphere of influence.
European politicians nearly all have a few years mentioned in their LinkedIn page where they attended those same universities.
And same as Americans, the 'poor' but smart Europeans ready to sell out can get absorbed in the US regime apparatus through international grants and scholarships.
The Fullbright scholarship deserves a mention for delivering the worst of them.
Euro 'journalists' not worthy of that name since they are US mouthpieces often follow the same path.
Their reward is joining US related think tanks, another toxic phenomenon.
This gets them powerful positions and they are often invited by the Euro MSM as 'experts' to give their colored opinion on geopolitics.
In Britain it starts well before University, when the scions of the elites attend very exclusive "Public Schools" as teenagers (in typical British fashion, "Public" here doesn't mean state-sponsored like everywhere else, it means private and "open to anybody who can afford it" and even that last part is a lie for the most exclusive ones).
Mind you, whilst I wrote my previous post I kept going back and correcting things because the more I thought about the US in this context the more it seemed to me that the US nowadays does have a lot of that, it's just not as old and entrenched as in Britain plus the mindset of most people there isn't one of "people should know their place" as is in the UK.
I supposed you could say that whilst both countries are not at all meritocratic, people in the UK accept it as "the way things are" whilst people in the US still now (though it seems to be changing) deceive themselves into thinking "one day that might be me".
Very true. They tried dressing it up under a veneer of liberal postmodernism but the authoritarian, colonial brutality that characterises the English bourgeoisie has been laid bare by this genocide.
Indeed.
Having lived for over a decade in Britain, including the 2008 Crash and the Leave Vote and even having been involved in Politics there (in the Green Party), the only shocking element in this for me is the almost total removal of the velvet glove that was used to cover the iron fist (not total because they're doing the usual disguising of authoritarian oppression as "Rule Of Law" as if it wasn't them who put those Laws), since one of the most important things the British Upper Classes learn during their years in posh Public Schools is to manage appearances.
Maybe the dropping of the posh façade is due to the influence of America or maybe it's because they learned from the decade of Austerity after the 2008 Crash that in Britain the anger of the many is easily channeled against powerless minorities such as immigrants and the poor and there is a veritable bottomless pit amongst the "riff-raff" of people who will relentlessly defend the actions of "their betters".
Please don't write shit like that without a /s mo matter how obvious.