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I vibe with the sentiment, liberty for all and that jazz, but it's a bit ableist to say a blind man in a wheelchair can't be a terrorist.
Nobody does, especially not the UK government
here in the US, they won't even declare the KKK as a terrorist org, but holy hell will they happily go after brown people
Here’s a reminder that modern gun control laws in the US got started during the civil rights movement by conservatives, because lawmakers were scared of black people owning guns.
The civil rights protestors realized that peaceful unarmed protests were quickly and violently busted… Cops had no qualms about dragging protestors around, beating people, firing into crowds, etc… But peaceful heavily armed protests had cops politely watching from across the street. Because firing into a crowd is a lot less appealing when the entire crowd can immediately return fire.
When conservative lawmakers saw heavily armed protestors on the front steps of their capitol buildings, and saw police completely unwilling to break the protests up, they got really fucking sweaty really fucking quickly. So Ronald Reagan (yes, the same Reagan who is treated as a paragon of conservative values by conservative talking-heads), and the NRA (yes, the same NRA who lobbies for looser gun control laws in the wakes of school shootings), co-authored and quickly passed the Mulford Act. At the time, it was the single most restrictive gun control law that had ever been passed, and it set the stage for modern gun control laws.
you're smearing a lot of distinct point of history together, but the premise isn't wrong.
Ronnie got upset because it wasn't some civil rights march protester, it was BLACK protesters, specifically Black Panthers. That's what specifically motivated the NRA et al. The idea of minorities, armed, actually standing up for their rights.
That's fair and it should be officially a terrorist org, but on the flip side there have been many actions taken against the KKK leading to their large decline over the decades, including in the 1960s when FBI Director Hoover and Agent Roy Moore setting up new field offices in Mississippi and holding many of them accountable as well as uncovering and making public new murders that otherwise went under the radar. There was also a large deradicalization programs that effectively reduced members of such groups and prevented crimes, the programs which grew in scale under Obama and were torn down by Trump.
And mississippi only got that federal scrutiny after they kidnapped and murdered white protesters along with people of color. If the KKK hadn't gone that far, I'm not sure we would have seen that federal response.
Pretty sure it had more to do with the church bombing that killed 4 little black girls, but you clearly can't accept any examples of goodwill from whom you view an enemy.
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you do realize there's a difference between mississippi and alabama, right?
like, I know it's all the south and racism kinds to smear the boundaries but I was specific in my wording because I meant mississippi.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16th_Street_Baptist_Church_bombing <-- alabammy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Schwerner <--- mrs'ssippy
man, sometimes I feel nuance is entirely lost on this crowd because they're so quick to attempt to correct what they're either misreading or misunderstanding.
So because of some imaginary lines you reject the correct timeline of events?
Zionists are more important than your civil rights.
~~Zionists~~ The colonialist self-proclaimed representatives of a white race who are right now mass murdering children of a "brown" race because of having born with the "wrong" ethinicity are more important than ~~your~~ the civil rights of the British riff-raff.
FIFY
British governments have a long and shameful History of supporting Racist Fascists no matter what they do, from Pinochet to the government of Apartheid South Africa. Even Hitler was supported (there's even a picture of the old Queen as a child being taught the Nazi salute by her uncle the then King) until he invade Poland.
Support for this specific Genocidal white colonialist nation mass murdering muslim children with authoritarian methods and de facto no concern for the civil rights of common Britons, is just the latest symptom of social and political regressivennes and even learned sociopathy amongst the British elites: they never really evolved beyond 19th century ways and "values".
Same as the US.
Very true. They tried dressing it up under a veneer of liberal postmodernism but the authoritarian, colonial brutality that characterises the English bourgeoisie has been laid bare by this genocide.
Indeed.
Having lived for over a decade in Britain, including the 2008 Crash and the Leave Vote and even having been involved in Politics there (in the Green Party), the only shocking element in this for me is the almost total removal of the velvet glove that was used to cover the iron fist (not total because they're doing the usual disguising of authoritarian oppression as "Rule Of Law" as if it wasn't them who put those Laws), since one of the most important things the British Upper Classes learn during their years in posh Public Schools is to manage appearances.
Maybe the dropping of the posh façade is due to the influence of America or maybe it's because they learned from the decade of Austerity after the 2008 Crash that in Britain the anger of the many is easily channeled against powerless minorities such as immigrants and the poor and there is a veritable bottomless pit amongst the "riff-raff" of people who will relentlessly defend the actions of "their betters".
The propaganda framing from the BBC on the arrests has been truly ludicrous. They described the protesters attempts to “evade detection” by bringing blank pieces of paper along, explaining they would only write messages on the cards if more than 500 people turned up.
"Our correspondent.. has been telling me how protesters carefully planned to evade police detection while carrying placards as part of their protest," the newsreader explained as though she was describing the most sinister plot ever uncovered.
Remember when liberals were outraged when Russian protesters were arrested for showing blank pieces of paper?
The UK is now in the same stage of slide toward autocracy, evidently.
What is it with liberals literally only seeing bug problems when it's in other countries.
My theory is that, "Liberals" in the Anglo-Saxon style (though the rest are going towards it too) are pretty much Fascists with different lists of "good" races and "bad" races (the kind of people who would make fun of Trump's Oval Office by saying "it's like a Middle Eastern dictator" - so casually voicing prejudice about the Middle East) and that means they're also Nationalists like the Fascists or at the very least think Western society is superior.
Certainly it would explain a lot of things, including how easilly for all their proclamations of being against Racism, they'll support a Genocide mass murdering children in the tens and even hundreds of thousands as long the genociders are from a "white race" and the victims are "non-whites" - they were never against Racism, much less Discrimination in general, only against that which targets whatever minorities it's currently fashionable to claim to defend and even in that they stick to mainly performative support and avoid doing changes with real impact in bringing Equality of Treatment when such changes would affected the Wealthy.
I experienced 2 cases here recently .
1 is was Blue MAGA complaining about using a screenshot of an anti-genocide post on X.
Really upset, bcs you can't use X for something trivial as a genocide. It was hurting them in their much more important battle against Red MAGA.
Yesterday (and today) I saw the many posts about the NZ woman (and kid) arrested for entering the US.
One of the comments was literally "even white people from white countries!".
Instantly reminded me of this.
So I look up this case and see it's big news in NZ, US,etc...
I remarked that the woman didn't have her travel documents and asked if they could name one of the 1000's of brown people that suffered worse fates and unlike her forcefully got removed from their children and deported.
Despite having all their documents in order.
They didn't seem to notice their own (subtle?) racism and didn't like me questioning these double standards.
It could only be about the bad thing Trump did and that I had no empathy for the woman.
Not much later I got banned
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Paper! Believe it or not, jail.
Hot to make sure that the Israeli jew does his genocide in peace. God forbid they find out that nobody appreciates them or their crimes.
UK sounds like a shitter america but with decent health care
Next they're going to be arresting a deaf-blind quadruple amputee and charging them with terrorism offences. It proves the complete absurdity of the PA ban and the total abuse of terrorism law by the government.
nah. racist anti immigrant right wing reform voters will never be considered terrorists according to kieth
From a different website:
Parliament in early July passed a law banning Palestine Action and making it a crime to publicly support the organization. That came after activists broke into a Royal Air Force base and vandalized two tanker planes to protest Britain's support for Israel's offensive against Hamas in the Gaza Strip.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/uk-london-protest-pro-palestinian-law-action-1.7605253
extra funny given he previously cheered on this type of protest during the Iraq bullshit
They must be Quakering in their boots
The proscription of Palestine Action is ridiculous and shameful.
But so is this article. If you turned up in support of ISIS then you should be arrested whether you're old or young, blind, deaf, in a wheelchair, doing cartwheels, or anything else. Disabled people are capable of supporting terrorist organisations and to pretend this is absurd is to miss the point and cynically look for sympathy where it won't be found. Not only that, but being arrested for supporting a terrorist organisation doesn't mean you're "considered a terrorist."
Criticise the actual problem - that the Terrorism Act gave the Secretary of State authoritarian powers that it never should have, and she has now used those powers to ban a group that protested a genocidal war through non-violent direct action.
palestine action didn't do anything different than what keir starmer did.