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The neolibs are too far right. The tankies are doing whatever that is. Where's the space for the people who want fully-automated-luxury-gay-space-communism, but realize that it's gonna take a while and there are lots of steps between now and then? Here. This is that space.
Here, people should endeavor to discuss and devise practical, actionable leftist action. Vote lesser evil while you build grassroots coalitions. Unionize your workplace. Participate in SRAs. Build cohesion your local community. Educate the proletariat.
This is a place for practical people to develop practical plans to implement stable, incremental improvement.
If you're dead-set on drumming up all 18,453 True Leftists® into spontaneous Revolution, go somewhere else. The grown ups are talking.
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-2. Don't be a tankie. Yes I'm sure you have an extensive knowledge of century-old theory. There's been a century of history since then. Things didn't shake out as expected, maybe consider the possibility that a different angle of attack might be more effective in light of new data.
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"Neither was good, so I refuse to participate and willfully allow the worst to happen. Now I get to feel morally superior to those who took action against the worst because the alternative was flawed." Fuck all the way off you absolute asshat. What was and is happening in Gaza is a fucking atrocity. And your lack of vote not only didn't fix a goddamned thing, if anything, it only made it worse and also allowed a myriad of other atrocities happening now and more soon to come. You are a joke and a moron.
You can't be a pedant and also be bad at it. You just sound like an idiot.
Oh wait, you think somehow that allowing the Trump regime to take power was the optimal play. Let me correct myself. You are an idiot.
Damn, in my hypothetical fantasy land Harris solved the crisis and fostered a perfect two state solution. I guess we'll never know how it would play out now because we elected a fascist. "Couldn't be worse" right?
It's almost like the "deal" we're weighing is way fucking bigger than one issue. I'm sure next election will have a plethora of progressive candidates and some nice friendly brown-shirt poll watchers cheering us on (we sure taught the dems a lesson right 😎 (don't worry Gaza, help is on the way, just a slight detour through CECOT))
So is being rounded up in unmarked vans for even speaking out about the genocide that your president is still enabling. Protesting the blue candidate didn't just not change anything, it actively made everything worse
Is that too complex of a thought for you?
Ok so no solution then, you just want everyone to suffer. Ladies and gentlemen, look at the sheer genius of accelerationism. Completely indistinguishable from the red pilled angst of the modern right.
Literally no political stance, no goals, nothing constructive at all. Congrats, that's quite a platform.
lol.
"Tell me again how voting for genocide was unavoidable?"
You need me to explain how the American election system works?
Why don't you grow up?
Right on cue. And yes it's a political issue, it pretty snugly fits the common definition.
Trying to pretend it's something sacrosanct and beyond politics is what makes a single issue voter.
That's you.
If you actually cared about the lives of people in the middle east you should be just as outraged over Trump unilaterally bombing a sovereign state, direct military action that wouldn't have happened with the Democratic candidates.
Or, as I pointed out, the deliberate climate destruction that will literally boil more people alive with wet bulb events.
Damn why so mad, my candidate didn't bomb those people when given the exact same chance. Or are we back to campaigning against hypotheticals instead of reality?
Projected climate collapse deaths by 2050: 14.5 million, about 250k per year.
Gaza deaths to date: in the range of 80k-100k, hard ceiling of ~2 million.
What could be more sacrosanct than the one and only habitable planet we'll ever get? Certainly not a piece of paper?
I live in a first world country with solid resource access, I can tell you for sure I won't affected as much as the people being cooked to death in India. Why should I care about them?
It's revealing that you weigh one favorite group of starving victims against the millions of others. Just because one is direct human cruelty and the other is direct and malicious social murder?
Don't tell me you care about both equally, because that's clearly not the vote you want to cast.
Yup. We had a chance to maybe turn the bus but no, we're going right off the cliff, gunning the engine no less, thanks to people who would rather cling to a single issue instead of mitigate harm across the wider spectrum.