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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My coworker left our job because a place offered him a pay raise that was like half his current salary.

He came back - the job was so terrible he couldn't stay there. Not just the actual work, but the people.

I try to avoid working anyplace evil, so banks, oil companies, etc. and there are environments I can't be productive in - government, healthcare, anyplace very structured and bureaucratic. I guess if the pay and position are secured, and I can handle my work however I want without losing them, then I would not do anything that would kill me or others either directly or through incompetence (underwater welder, race car driver, assassin, surgeon), would probably cave on banks and other evil orgs, since I might be able to try to change them from the inside.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I try to avoid working anyplace evil, so banks, oil companies, etc. and there are environments I can’t be productive in - government, healthcare, anyplace very structured and bureaucratic.

That's who invented the Internet.

I work for a Contractor who contracts to Government, including Healthcare. The job is meh, but the people are absolutely awesome. The structure is actually a huge benefit, and it makes all the dotcoms' seat-of-the-pants I.T stand out so much more. There's no power-play to prevent updating software - for example - just because "Doug knows the CEO and he doesn't want to" because Dougie's written objection wouldn't pass scrutiny -- and, at most, Doug would get an extension to follow a set plan with milestones to get to that update anyway. But there are many examples where common dotcom slackery dies under review.

There are obvious and well-repeated problems with the overly-structured setup, but they're different from the ones that bother me, and erring on the side of safety and most-benefit is what annoys people ("why can't we have containers and supply-chain exploits like everyone elssssse") the most.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I tried to work in a structured and bureaucratic environment once and was so useless because I want to change everything all the time, and wasn't used to "have your manager talk to her manager", or people trying to blame their errors on others, or trying to get their job. When I saw the lady who did payroll checking everyone off on a long sheet of green and white paper even though they were paying for Kronos and just not using it right, but she protected her job and didn't want it to change, and people there would make others look bad instead of helping them, in an effort to look better themselves in comparison, I cannot function in that world.

I've only worked at startups, and the good part of that is that everyone is trying to do things better, easier, I don't get mad if someone sees a better way I could do something, and they don't have to have their manager tell my manager. And everyone helps everyone, nobody is protecting their job because there is always too much, helping others is how you move up here.

(And yes I know this is a personal difference, not saying it's a better work environment for everyone, or even better for results. Accounting is its own type of work, too - I try to solve problems and get the software to do what a machine does better than a person. The kind of accounting where you are doing what a machine can, is dreadfully boring. I have often thought help desk at my work is the best job. They troubleshoot, and set up equipment, it's got a good balance of work. )

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago

There are pipeline and mining jobs near me that would leverage my degree and skills but I don’t even entertain applying, I would hate it there doing stuff I feel is wrong.