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Ecosia, the tree-planting search engine from Berlin, and Qwant, France's privacy-focused search provider, announced a joint venture in November 2024 to develop their own European search index[^5][^6]. The partnership aims to reduce their dependence on Microsoft's Bing APIs, which both companies currently rely on for search results[^6].

The new venture, called European Search Perspective (EUP), is structured as a 50-50 ownership split between Ecosia and Qwant[^6]. Qwant's engineering team and existing search index development will transfer to EUP, with Qwant CEO Olivier Abecassis leading the joint venture[^6].

"The door is open and we are ready to talk to anyone," said Abecassis, while noting they want to "move as fast as possible" with their existing shareholders' support[^6]. The index will begin serving France-based search traffic for both engines by Q1 2025, expanding to cover "a significant portion" of German traffic by end of 2025[^6].

Rising API costs are a key motivator, following Microsoft's massive price hike for Bing's search APIs in 2023[^6]. However, neither company plans to completely stop using Bing or Google, instead aiming to diversify their technical foundation as generative AI takes a more central role in search[^6].

[^6]: TechCrunch - Ecosia and Qwant, two European search engines, join forces on an index to shrink reliance on Big Tech

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I've been using SearX for over a year now. https://priv.au/

It returns old-school, unranked results. It currently has at least 50 Instances you can choose from. https://searx.space/

[–] milk@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What do you mean by unranked? Because it doesn't maintain its own database, just proxies other search engines and aggregates them

Furthermore, priv.au seems to include only Google in its default search engines so its really just Google through a proxy. Good for privacy but doesn't really help you get away from big tech

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

4get is wayyyyy better imo, here's a list of many instances. https://4get.ca/instances (my instance https://4get.lurx.net/)

Edit: because I think it's funny as well, here is the creator of 4get self made comparison between 4get and searx

[–] Humorless4483@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

I don’t know from where he got the 2Gb RAM usage because my searxng instance uses 45MiB of RAM.

[–] Vupware@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Woah, this is cool.

To me, it looks like it basically anonymizes your search through a search engine of your choice.

Meaning, you can still use google for a search if you choose, but the data they would usually collect is out of reach.

Am I understanding this correctly?

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 7 points 1 day ago

You are correct, it is just a privacy respecting meta search engine! I self host my own instance, another thing to love.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

It's the only real way to go.

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Cool cool cool.

My go to test is to search for water shoes / swimming shoes that are either size EU 48 or extra wide.

This shiet can't even find only "water shoes", instead recommending shoes to me.

Seems to be useless trash-proxy to Bing and Google?