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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

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As found by @gerikson here, more from the anti anti TESCREAL crowd. How the antis are actually R9PRESENTATIONALism. Ottokar expanded on their idea in a blog post.

Original link.

I have not read the bigger blog post yet btw, just assumed it would be sneerable and posted it here for everyone's amusement. Learn about your own true motives today. (This could be a troll of course, boy does he drop a lot of names and thinks that is enough to link things).

E: alternative title: Ideological Turing Test, a critical failure

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Yeah i was just doing the meme from king of the hill. If I go indepth, I would sneer at stuff like: "Because if TESCREALism really is a secularized religion, then… so what?"

For being a misrepresentation, it is secularized eschatological Christianity (perhaps even Catholicism, but not Protestant enough to say that, counting the rich feels very knife in church door ish), not just a religion. Doesn't even represent the argument correctly. It is the rapture of the nerds, not the breaking of the Saṃsāra for nerds.

E: bonus points for after first generalizing religion then picking islam as some weird anti apostate example. Must have been an accident. E2: the apostate (yes, my word, he said 'shirkers', which is not a term I have ever seen used re religion) stuff is even funnier considering that Émile P. Torres (who for some reason is not mentioned in the opening, just later), is somebody who has written about “existential threats” for ages (more on his ideas on this here which also has the bonus that it is way more readable than the main post), DavidG was a lesswronger, a lot of science fiction writers who are not positive about TESCREAL are people who wrote transhumanist sf, and see also the large group of sneerclubbers who used to read LW/SSC etc. (E3: forgot to mention, Gebru is a computer scientist).

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

"shirk" is an islamic term for idolatry/type of heresy, person who does that is called "mushirk"

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 1 points 1 hour ago

i'm not reading all that so idk if it's used correctly in context, but more usual islamic term for infidel is "kafir" (spellings vary; there's no single romanization of arabic)

[–] cstross@wandering.shop 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

@Soyweiser What is "king of the hill"? TV/cinema or some other visual entertainment?

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 1 points 2 hours ago

It is a tv series yes, this is basically the clip from the show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aOHQ-sMCps there is more context re the episode but it isn't that relevant. I should have just linked it initially. (I have since edited the first post with a link to the know your meme page which explains it).

Animated series about an honest propane salesman from Texas trying to survive modernity.

[–] scruiser@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh duh, I remember that meme now. With the people getting on the bus wearing weird white robe outfits?