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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

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Move over TESCREAL, R9PRESENTATIONALism is here. (archive.is)

submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by Soyweiser@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

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As found by @gerikson here, more from the anti anti TESCREAL crowd. How the antis are actually R9PRESENTATIONALism. Ottokar expanded on their idea in a blog post.

Original link.

I have not read the bigger blog post yet btw, just assumed it would be sneerable and posted it here for everyone's amusement. Learn about your own true motives today. (This could be a troll of course, boy does he drop a lot of names and thinks that is enough to link things).

E: alternative title: Ideological Turing Test, a critical failure

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[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I know this is a shit post but I think we should probably spare some thought for the connection between Adam Weishaupt and modern technofascist grifters in the sense of trying to profit from building a social club/identity around a set of ideas that are broadly popular among a subset of wealthy elites but not necessarily powerful in wider society. Given their shared (professed) allegiance to the enlightenment and progress I cannot see him being anything other than proud of what Lighthaven or MIRI have accomplished in the field of separating people from their money.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The Behind The Bastards podcast had a sequence of episodes looking at the idea of The Illuminati (from Weishaupt, through anti-Masonic panics, Discordianism, and the idea’s inglorious most recent resting place, Qanon), and their summary of Weishaupt’s organisation was that it was a grift: an organisation whose ostensible purpose was to provide an endless ladder of “esoteric knowledge” the idle rich would pay to climb, with its actual “inner teachings” being the advancement of controversial ideas like secularism and human rights, which many of the marks climbing the ladder would have doubtlessly found objectionable, so they were palmed off with recycled alchemy/kabbalah and secret codes.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

That's exactly what I was thinking of, only with the kabbalah replaced by generic self-help and a list of cognitive biases.

Ed: or, y'know, kabbalah