I have learned very little about this because it's extremely obvious we are learning a politically spun version of the story to drum up a hysteria. Not interested in being involved in that.

It is also completely true and well-known that in Canada you do not have unlimited rights to take a life as soon as someone crosses an imaginary border, as you might in the States. I think that's fine, and the fantasy of "defending yourself" is an American invention of hyperindividualism. The very same that has been absolutely ripping apart their society at the seams. Not really interested in following in their footsteps there.

[–] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

why are we defending thief and robbers again?

I think that's fine, and the fantasy of "defending yourself" is an American invention of hyperindividualism

You'll find that all this thinking quickly disappears when you find a man ravaging your closets at 4am

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

People don't steal for no reason. It is usually desperation, a last resort. If we remove the pressure causing people to feel that stealing is their only option, people won't steal. I fundamentally believe in providing people their basic needs (food, clothing, shelter) because it makes these problems irrelevant. Ex-cons will tell you themselves that they felt they had absolutely no other option to keep themselves or their family alive. Give them the other option.

As for your fear bait, I'm more scared of dying via car because it's FAR more statistically likely than your invented scenario.

[–] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago

People don't steal for no reason. It is usually desperation, a last resort. If we remove the pressure causing people to feel that stealing is their only option, people won't steal. I fundamentally believe in providing people their basic needs (food, clothing, shelter) because it makes these problems irrelevant.

While i wholeheartedly agree on supporting people both economically and with basic needs, i call bullshit on this one

try to explain that food, clothing and help is available to the guy high on weed, meth and/or heroin stealing your money to get another hit

If you need to resort theft because you actually need food go stealing at Walmart's, not my house

As for your fear bait, I'm more scared of dying via car because it's FAR more statistically likely than your invented scenario.

Ok? Feel free to be scared of whatever you want, the chance someone breaks into your house is still there, no matter how low (not that low, especially in some neighborhoods), and i'm not about to treat intruders gently. They chose to steal, they chose to steal from houses, and they chose my house. I had no choice in this, nor should i face the consequences of someone's else actions which i could not control in any way