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That said, with a changing global market in mind, countries have been more willing to get involved in the planning and development of national automotive companies. Mexico’s “Olinia”, for instance, is a planned EV line set to be led by a new federal ministry, with a focus on affordability. As noted in its initial press release, the target demographic is families and young people, with three models expected to cost between US $4,400 to US $7,400—significantly lower than other EVs sold in the country.

The idea is that a nationally led framework will aid in the project’s coordination, with production intended to take place across several regions to keep costs down. Government ownership will also ensure a reliable stream of investment and that the end product is something attainable by the average Mexican family.

Turkey is pursuing a similar project through its Automobile Joint Venture Group (TOGG), a consortium of companies with the support and financial backing of the government. The goal is to create a national brand of EVs, with some models already being available for purchase.

With Mexico and Turkey offering prospective templates, Canada need not reinvent the wheel in pursuing its own, publicly owned automaker. Only the federal government has the ability to operate a program of this magnitude by bringing together our natural resources, skilled workforce, and industrial capacity to create a sustainable and affordable Canadian brand.

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The vehicles it should be producing are electric bicycles.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

We don't really have places to put them domestically, until we do a buttload of complicated and expensive land acquisition, and I wouldn't want to try and sell HSR abroad built in a country that doesn't really have much.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry but I just don't buy that. Canada built its original rail system coast to coast in the 19th century with a population of 4 million and a highway coast to coast in the 60's with a population of 20 million. We can make HSR happen today with a population of 40 million. We just need some vision.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Do I really need to mention who was in the path of the original railway? That being said, a single, coast-to-coast line actually does make sense, and is one of those projects under serious consideration at the federal level. But, it's going to compete with airlines, not cars. If you want to go from Regina to Saskatoon or Calgary to Drumheller neither that nor an ebike are going to help.

Have a look at just about any public works project around and how they go, if you actually interested in or care about this. You're going to have to demolish homes and restructure communities along the way. It can be done, and it has, but it's slow and terrible, and a lot of people will hate it. I would assume the trans-Canada highway reused a lot of existing road and still was like that.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 19 hours ago

Vancouver area is expanding the skytrain, its not HSR, but it will make the 60km commute a breeze. And my one coworker drives 5 hours from his residence to Vancouver area every few weeks. So a rail route would compete with a car. There is a plane route, but with getting to airport, security and waiting or delays, driving is a more pleasant option.

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We could build two right now - one in Ontario and one in Alberta (parallel to QEII) - on existing land grants. Instead, we just keep making the highways wider.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yes, it still is a good idea to do some. The QEII plan looks like it would be crammed in there pretty tight, but it's worth it; then again, our current government is crazy and likes to blow up projects already underway because their cousin would have a view ruined, or whatever.

Switching overnight from building cars to rail stock is quite something else.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I was in Calgary or Edmonton, I forget it was a work trip blur. The train was right down the middle of the road. You could reach out your car window and touch it. If you want something there are ways to make it fit

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

At high speed, you're not going to run a track streetcar style. Safety and strong gusts to the surrounding area aside, they have really shit turn radius. (Edit: Like, kilometers)

IIRC the QEII line would be raised in the margin between the two traffic directions. The stations would be trickier, and I'm not sure if a solid plan even exists, although, yes, it can be done somewhere somehow. And come to think of it, I'm not sure how they're planning to run it through the existing overpasses, either.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

It doesn't even have to be highspeed, anything is faster than bumper to bumper traffic

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

and compact vehicles, both electric and combustion. but compact.

sometimes a car is required. make it economical and inoffensive so that people have a choice and can rightfully be held accountable when they buy a massive brand new Highlander to transport their groceries and newborn while endangering literally everybody else, and themselves, by driving a massive heavy object that blinds everybody in front of it

and stop making roads bigger, that just encourages more people to drive