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[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 62 points 1 day ago (6 children)

i cant wait for mobile Linux to be ready, I will switch in a heartbeat.

[–] Xttweaponttx@sh.itjust.works 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Saw someone else mention sailfish! There is also PostmarketOS I've recently seen footage of it running on a OnePlus phone and it looks way more stable than I'd expected!!

Edit= apparently just 2 oneplus phones and sparse other phones are supported, and stability varies per device =/ you can check here to see if your phone's supported!

[–] Zanz@lemmy.ml 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It won't happen due to voice over lte.

[–] scarilog@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Zanz@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago

Voice over l t e is not standardized and the carriers on the I p to connect to their system. So every carrier has an encrypted blob that only works with whatever version of phone they want to sell. If you have a major phone like an iPhone or a pixel, then apple and Google work to make sure that those seemlessly download.But if you're any other brand you're kind of screwed. Even Samsung has issues since I can't use the Play Store to distribute it in their own app.Store doesn't have good support from the carriers. The carriers really push that only the phones are purchased from them work. Spokennoise, they also pushed it unsecured.Devices need to be wiped, including them voiceover Lte data.

Look at the issues with australian service right now , they are even trying to stop iphones from other countries from using it. Apple has a whole system to make sure that all phones work with the same voice over lte stuff following the bands match and auto download the blobs.

[–] RedRibbonArmy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 22 hours ago (2 children)
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 9 points 21 hours ago

Ubuntu touch is a thing, But the only platform it's running properly on is halium, which is basically an Android core and bootloader that virtualizes the OS.

It works, and it has pretty good battery life, but it's not really Linux on the phone, they're using Android drivers under the hood.

The real Linux distributions that exist that are running on metal don't have all the drivers worked out yet for modem and VOLTE, But those are close, i'm not worried about that, But I am worried about is the average of 6 hours of battery life on a 3500 mah battery. Android has battery life down to a science. Those apps just become snapshots and disappear into the background and restore like nothing happened when you need them again.

I started diving into this one Android started showing their ass a couple of months ago. If you want to use hallium, You might be able to daily drive it if you don't have high expectations, The guy I was following that tested it out so that helium / touch was so lockdown that he couldn't even install unsanctioned apps from the terminal because the VM would brick itself.

I can deal with not running most phone apps, But I really don't feel like moving from one lockdown OS to another just for the hell of it. If Google pulls this s*** I will get out at the first available stop.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

I've been hearing about this for 10+ years now. I vaguely remember testing a prototype that could only load an os. That was it

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Pinephone exists now, you can buy it today. It runs Linux.

Calls/SMS do work although are not 100% so if you absolutely need these to be reliable you could get a brick phone for like £15 to cover that and then use the Pinephone as a pocket computer. I used it as my only phone for a couple of years and it was mostly fine, now it doesn't have a SIM in it and its perfect as a pocket PC.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 15 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

If calls/SMS are not 100% then it’s not a phone

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That is where the dumb phone comes in which only deals with calls/SMS.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

If you have to buy a dumb phone for your smartphone then you did not buy a smartphone, is my point

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 0 points 15 hours ago

If you can't even install software on it then its not an overly smartphone.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Pinephone battery usage (with postmarketOS) is atrocious. I bought one and it's been collecting dust in a drawer ever since the first 3-4 times the battery drained from 100 to 0 within 24 hours on stand-by. :( My fastest wasted 700ish EUR ever.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

How so much? Mine was about £200 after delivery and import taxes. Still my most expensive phone but the best computer I have ever put in my pocket.

Shame that calls/SMS are not perfect, but I have since for a dumb phone for that so the SIM sits in that instead.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

it's been 3 years or so but I may have bought a pinephone pro because the simple one was out of stock? Plus convergence package, plus shipping, plus outrageous money transfer fees - German banks are basically thieves when it comes to international transfers outside the EU.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Permanently connect it to a power bank?

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
  1. great use case for a mobile device /s
  2. lithium ion batteries are really nothing to feel comfortable around
  3. wasting energy is wasting energy

So - no, it's now expensive electronic scrap, sadly. While my shiftphone easily lasts 24 hours with regular use and 3+ days on standby.

[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Follow pine64 news, they stopped producing new pinephones since they arent in demand enough

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I thought that was just the pro?

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

the pro was discontinued but the base model is only going to be produced for another 2 years. Hopefully they release a next generation model but if they are toning down upper end models then I'm not convinced.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 5 points 18 hours ago

Mine has postmarketOS on it, probably should update sometime.

One thing I would like is decent offline maps with good performance, don't even care of it supports GPS or not. Pinephone has no SIM in it these days and that sits in a CatB40.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are they stopping development though? Stopping production when there is an abundance of stock to sell already is just normal business.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 3 points 22 hours ago

It wasn't due to surplus, they said in the release that it was a didn't sell enough units(the pro). And the current pinephone is only going to be produced another 2 or so years, they havent mentioned any plans that I saw of a model after that.

[–] pewpew@feddit.it 3 points 1 day ago

I've been looking to switch as well... But it's hard to find a supported device. Dammit, I want Mobian so bad...