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[โ€“] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

What happens if the US pushes back?

The results are concerning:

  • France: 66% of publicly listed companies rely on US providers. In its automobiles and components sector, itโ€™s 77%.
  • UK: 88% of publicly listed companies depend on US tech for their email and communications.
  • Spain: 74% of publicly listed companies rely on US services, including six sectors at 100%.
  • Portugal: 72% of publicly listed businesses use US providers. In nine sectors, that figure is 100%.
  • Ireland: In 19 sectors, 100% of publicly listed companies use US-based tech.

This isnโ€™t just a tech issue โ€” itโ€™s an innovation roadblock, a national security concern, and a sovereignty crisis.

https://proton.me/blog/us-tech-rules-europe

Seems like

China has Critical Minerals and Manufacturing to hold over America

America has all its tech/cpu's/gpu's/smartphones/websites to hold over the EU

The EU has ?

[โ€“] Szewek@sopuli.xyz 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

EU has AMSL and other key semiconductor manufacturing equipment producers. Nokai and Ericsson dominate the telecom installations in the US, to much frustrations of some Americans, and with even the military getting more and more reliant on them.

The CPUs, GPUs, and Smartphones are much more Asian than American. It's just the immediate shock of blocking mails and office software, and some of the even more critical software as well, that the US has long been preparing to use as a brutal leverage. It is not that much about having leverage, as about the state's ability to use it.

[โ€“] Renohren@lemmy.today 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Even the UK has significant leverage with ARM.

[โ€“] Szewek@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And the EU, and the UK, and Canada, Japan, South Korea, could easily cooperate. Their goals in the tariff chaos are more or less aligned (maybe apart from the last two not caring much about Ukraine to the best of my knowledge).

[โ€“] Renohren@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yes. Cooperation among the remaining liberal democracies is important. We are all in the US/Russia/China crosshairs.

Taiwan, Japan and South Korea do care. They are very much afraid that if Russia succeeds, then China would follow suit. Taiwan has a problem with TSMC that opens factories all over the world and therefore dilutes the protection having all the factories in Taiwan was having. South Korea understands the Ukrainian Territory of Donbass is a training ground for Kim's army. And Japan has disputed land to protect from China and Russia.

[โ€“] Szewek@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

Great points. Shame I did not mention Taiwan. Thanks!

[โ€“] Cyber@feddit.uk 10 points 2 weeks ago

The EU has ? ... to start somewhere.

Don't let overwhelming odds paralize you into doing nothing, just start... the rest will fall into place.

[โ€“] Sunshine@piefed.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago

Itโ€™s time for the EU to use its economic weight against a fascist state.

[โ€“] David_Eight@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

against the U.S. digital sector

Macron specifically says "digital sector". As far as I can tell this has nothing to to with hardware which I'm assuming the stats you listed includes.

[โ€“] Renohren@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago

A huge, essential for survival, client base?

And suddenly, Huawei, WeChat, Baidu doesn't look too bad to the EU.

(It's not in the interests of what this sub stands for, but it's an argument US firms and government would listen to).