We should have all got off American tech monopolies decades ago. For some reason, people struggled to see them for what they are. America should never have allowed such consolidation for their own sake. They nearly dealt with MS but then chickened out after 911.
this post was submitted on 29 Aug 2025
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Chickened out by believing Fox News and republican liars.
Ask not for whom the right-wing propaganda bell tolls - it tolls for thee
EU wasted decades funding US tech only to figure out Americans lied about being friends
Bullshit.
Americans lied to themselves that we didnโt need media controls or media literacy programs.
EU is falling into that same hole right now, Canadaโs next.
Propaganda, specifically racist, hateful propaganda - supercharged on you fucking facebook dipshits who refused to NOT hand over all your goddamned personal information - works really, really well.
This has nothing to do with Americansโ friendship. This has everything to do with the left doing shit while the right-wingers run the table. Tech executives arenโt visionaries - havenโt been for a long, long time.
What happens if the US pushes back?
The results are concerning:
- France: 66% of publicly listed companies rely on US providers. In its automobiles and components sector, itโs 77%.
- UK: 88% of publicly listed companies depend on US tech for their email and communications.
- Spain: 74% of publicly listed companies rely on US services, including six sectors at 100%.
- Portugal: 72% of publicly listed businesses use US providers. In nine sectors, that figure is 100%.
- Ireland: In 19 sectors, 100% of publicly listed companies use US-based tech.
This isnโt just a tech issue โ itโs an innovation roadblock, a national security concern, and a sovereignty crisis.
https://proton.me/blog/us-tech-rules-europe
Seems like
China has Critical Minerals and Manufacturing to hold over America
America has all its tech/cpu's/gpu's/smartphones/websites to hold over the EU
The EU has ?
EU has AMSL and other key semiconductor manufacturing equipment producers. Nokai and Ericsson dominate the telecom installations in the US, to much frustrations of some Americans, and with even the military getting more and more reliant on them.
The CPUs, GPUs, and Smartphones are much more Asian than American. It's just the immediate shock of blocking mails and office software, and some of the even more critical software as well, that the US has long been preparing to use as a brutal leverage. It is not that much about having leverage, as about the state's ability to use it.
Even the UK has significant leverage with ARM.
And the EU, and the UK, and Canada, Japan, South Korea, could easily cooperate. Their goals in the tariff chaos are more or less aligned (maybe apart from the last two not caring much about Ukraine to the best of my knowledge).
Yes. Cooperation among the remaining liberal democracies is important. We are all in the US/Russia/China crosshairs.
Taiwan, Japan and South Korea do care. They are very much afraid that if Russia succeeds, then China would follow suit. Taiwan has a problem with TSMC that opens factories all over the world and therefore dilutes the protection having all the factories in Taiwan was having. South Korea understands the Ukrainian Territory of Donbass is a training ground for Kim's army. And Japan has disputed land to protect from China and Russia.
Great points. Shame I did not mention Taiwan. Thanks!
The EU has ? ... to start somewhere.
Don't let overwhelming odds paralize you into doing nothing, just start... the rest will fall into place.
Itโs time for the EU to use its economic weight against a fascist state.
against the U.S. digital sector
Macron specifically says "digital sector". As far as I can tell this has nothing to to with hardware which I'm assuming the stats you listed includes.
A huge, essential for survival, client base?
And suddenly, Huawei, WeChat, Baidu doesn't look too bad to the EU.
(It's not in the interests of what this sub stands for, but it's an argument US firms and government would listen to).
How's Alcatel and Sagem Mr Macron ?
Going as great as intel! Goooo team waste.....