this post was submitted on 08 Sep 2025
140 points (98.6% liked)
Green - An environmentalist community
6403 readers
5 users here now
This is the place to discuss environmentalism, preservation, direct action and anything related to it!
RULES:
1- Remember the human
2- Link posts should come from a reputable source
3- All opinions are allowed but discussion must be in good faith
Related communities:
- /c/collapse
- /c/antreefa
- /c/gardening
- /c/eco_socialism@lemmygrad.ml
- /c/biology
- /c/criseciv
- /c/eco
- /c/environment@beehaw.org
- SLRPNK
Unofficial Chat rooms:
founded 6 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Ok... good.
And yet, it's mostly still packed in plastic. I know, not the same topic, but the title image triggered me. How are we not getting a hold on this!? It's almost like we're not even properly trying.
In Germany they sell a couple of these vegan patties, nuggets etc. frozen in a cardbord box.
Also in Spain, respect the use of plastic, in Lidl already reduced, but still work to do
Its stills leaps and bounds better, simply from an environmental stand point, than dairy or meat based products.
The effect animal ag has on the environment
Not equally so
https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/14/8/1614/html
Yes, but animals require significantly more resources. You can grow plants to eat, or you can grow plants for a cow to eat and then eat it. The amount of energy that reaches the consumer is significantly lower for animals per unit of production required to make it. The only reason it isn't more expensive is because it's heavily subsidized.
Sure, it's more complex than just that animals have to consume energy to live, but it's simple enough that we know the answer to the question. If we focus on plants that are best for humans to consume, it's trivial to see that feedings animals to eat wastes resources.
You're making a staw man. Growing crops that create scraps that we can't eat is partially only done because of subsidization of those crops to feed animals. Also, we can eat the most nutritious parts. The cob and stalk of corn are not rich in energy. Sure, cows can eat them, but they have to consume a ton of them.
If we grow crops for humans to consume, we get significantly more energy out of it than if we grow food for animals. This is trivial. Argue against this if you're going to argue. Don't argue against something else that's not relevant.
If only that were true...
Mods please ban this shill.
Either completely illiterate or an animal ag shill, or ai bot.
True.
But still greatly misleading. Having impact doesn't mean having equal impact. Plant-based foods all have dramatically lower impact than any animal-based foods. See some of my comments further up the chain
Which is what i meant but the other commenter is on an antivegan crusade and is just being a debatepervert to silence vegan voices. The one time I asked them for a proof of what they said they simply terminated the conversation with a "have a nice day" 😂 ~~let me see if i can find that thread again~~ https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/15837346
https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/14/8/1614/html
Have you yourself read or looked through publications on this question and formed your own opinion? If so, what is it that you think, and what is it based on?
Are you a fucking AI robot? The data is innumerable. It's huge. It's all in your face. It 100x* is better for the environment to eat plant-based.
reality?
what's your evidence that it isn't evidence?
disengage
This is some ai bot shit right here. @moderator please ban.
FYI: The Disengage Rule
Not using plastic could hurt their profits :(
Would not using plastic actually be the more environmentally friendly option here?
Sure, plastic is bad when it gets dumped where it shouldn't, but so is spoilage and other packaging solutions also have significant carbon footprints.
A lot of the veggies are in open containers only the more vurnarable smaller fruits, like tiny tomatoes etc are wrapped in plastic. If they would not wrap them, chances are high people won't buy them generating more food waste. So its also not great.