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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Vscode being more accessible than Visual doesn't actually mean anything in the grand scheme of code creation. Both sucks btw.

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Yet VSCode is one of the most popular IDEs with many other IDEs being forks of it.

I am amazed this is even remotely controversial. It's one of the few products they make that's actually good. Just tells you how far off the real world most Lemmy users are lol.

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Funnily I have been fine with a lot of Microsoft software before, but VSCode was not one of them. Mostly because I'm very picky about something I'll be using all day everyday and for that VSCode has too many issues for my taste.

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

Yeah editors are largely a matter of taste for some people. I won't say VSCode is perfectly to my taste. The issue is it's easy to use and works with just about every language, tool, and environment I need it to. Like I would probably prefer Zed or Neovim in some areas. Zed won't work on one of my machines properly for some unknown reason. Neovim would require too much tweaking and learning before it could be useful. Even then I couldn't guarantee I would actually be as productive as VSCode since not all the same tools are available. It might not work in every project I end up working on.

Essentially I have given up perfection in pursuit of convenience. If you have the time, patience, and the certainly of what you are working on then other IDEs and tooling can be much more tailored to you.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world -2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Popular. So coca cola is the best drink?

JetBrains are miles ahead visual code for example.

Funny how you just have to be condescending, almost like you don't have any real arguments. But keep on being "amazed", bet you're "amazed" about ai vibe coding, I mean it is all the rage ...

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I actually like JetBrains too. It isn't mutually exclusive to only like one or the other.

You haven't made a single real argument either.

Here let me make mine:

VSCode works with a huge range of languages, is very flexible and extendable, and has great support for remote development, development in containers, and even has cloud hosted IDEs based on it (Eclipse Che anyone?). Despite being web based it's somehow faster/lighter than JetBrains. It's also less expensive with fully open source versions available.

Edit: also I wasn't being condescending until people started attacking me for an incredibly uncontroversial opinion. Your the one being condescending here.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world -2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'm being condescending lol? No u 😁

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

So as I thought you don't have a real point. You just came here to call the popular thing bad for not fitting your tastes.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You're just angry your favourite IDE gets bashed lol.

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I've used Eclipse, Jet Brains, Visual Studio, Visual Studio Code, vim, Cursor, and more for programming. I've played around with even more besides that. I don't owe loyalty to any of these. Hence me having no issue with you using Jet Brains. It's saved my ass a few times as well. That doesn't make it perfect anymore than any of the others are perfect.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Just use the one you like for sure. That's what smart people tend to do. One day it'll be like that with programming languages, everyone has their favourite(s) but sometimes you have to code in Java because that's simpler to use in a specific setting.

Is the feud over 😋 ?

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Bro who do you think your talking to? It already is like that for me for programming languages. I've certainly programmed in enough of them. The more likely option is that you will be working in an already established code base and have to use what they are already using or want you to use. You sound like a hobby programmer. That or someone at a company using microservices for everything.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

You know I actually used to think like you once. When I only wanted to be a professional code monkey. I am glad I don't think like that anymore. There are better things to be than someone who's job is just to write code. Code is after all a means to an end. Now when I write code it's with an actual goal in mind.

Writing code is something that's largely being automated by LLMs and AI. Some will still be needed, the best and the brightest of programmers, but I don't think that's you. Any who go learn cyber security or AI or something. You would make more money there anyway. If not your going to have to learn to work with LLMs, and to fix their code. Cause there sure aren't going to be many programming jobs in the future that don't involve using them.

[–] eronth@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

What does JetBrains do that makes it miles ahead?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

On mint it actually finds the C# sources in Godot, for example. It also easily "compiles" and launches the soft through Godot, with working debugging. Vscode is a nightmare to set up, there are configs, other files, project files, and other parameters that just aren't taken into account. Or having, gasp, code in a folder, it just isn't getting scanned by vscode. You can surely get it to work, but if you don't use the base boilerplate setup it just doesn't function well at all.

I have used visual studio since early 2000 and it was good, then it became bloated, and vscode is IMO just a lighter version of that bloated visual.

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

VSCode and Visual Studio aren't from the same code base. They aren't commonly used for the same things, or on the same platforms. Do you think they are comparable because they have similar names?

Not understanding how to use the thing doesn't make it bad. It's no wonder your confused if you think it's an alternative to Visual Studio.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Now you're at it again, putting words in my mouth and behind condescending. I used visual studio when you were probably in diapers (see how nice it is when someone is gratiously attacking you?), and who cares what Codebase is used lol, what an asinine remark.

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Who started attacking who here?

I have been programming in some capacity for about 12 or 13 years now. Let's not argue seniority here.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

With 3 years of full-time professional experience or less I bet.

But you already know how to use a downvote, so you're not a noob any more!

Welcome to the internet.

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I am a PhD student doing stuff about cyber security and AI. So no programming is not my primary field anymore.

I am kind of surprised someone who's primary job is programming has such problems using a tool like VSCode that's supposed to be usable by even beginners.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world -1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Ahaha

"I'm a PHD" and I know my ways around internet discussions! Watch out! I have a paper proving my worth!

So that's why you smell of Dunning-Kruger when it comes to programming.

If I had a dollar for every PhD, researcher or manager thinking they knew programming... Lots of people out of cs school too. You just don't wing programming.

Continue doing "stuff with ai and cyber security" if that floats your boat, but you sure do need to hone your "internet discussion" skills 😁.

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago

Also good luck being unemployed in a few years!

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago

I am not the one who looks like a fool here. Who is the one actually getting up votes from people other than themselves?