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The admin of the Mastodon instance cyberspace.social just received an AI powered notice to delete the parody account @microsoft@lea.pet

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 24 points 10 hours ago

They don't really understand their user base either

[–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Does Microsoft understand anything? At all? They suck at making software, the suck at making operating systems, they suck at making genAI, they suck at making game consoles, they're starting to suck at owning github, what don't they suck at? What part of their business is done better than anyone else? What end user experience is better on an MS product than anywhere else? They have a shittier alternative to literally everything and nothing truly good.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 2 points 28 minutes ago

They rock at being the default. As much as I love LibreOffice MS office is probably the best office suite I've used too.

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

They suck at making everything except money.

[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 17 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

let them sue, parody is fair use. get that bag king

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

AI putting copyright troll lawyers out of jobs? Best use I’ve heard of yet.

[–] Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Look ma, my instance is being threatened! Proud to be on the instance of Mastodon CEO 🥹

Ok but fr, MS please don't shut down cyberplace.social I just switched to there like a few months ago.

[–] enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 15 hours ago

this is why niche stuff on fedi is so funny sometimes. especially when a corporate entity tried to approach it, in the most corporate way lol.

[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 147 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Microsoft is at this point made up entirely of technically inept people running fraudulent mechanical Turks.

[–] dangling_cat@piefed.blahaj.zone 20 points 18 hours ago

After forced to switch to Microsoft teams, I became their PM and developers are alien origin.

Like, some of the logic doesn’t make any human sense. Like, LLM slop would’ve done better.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 23 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I feel like this is going to become a problem with federation in the future. A Mastodon instance is hosting content outside of its control that may or may not comply with its internal policies or local law. Is that instance protected legally? Likely not.

It would likely be treated the same way as auto forwarding an email would be treated.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know. You may be generally already protected to some degrees by existing laws for users interacting with your site. This time it's just users interacting with your site via another server. If you defederate from bad instances and have a good DMCA system, you might be okay.

Although, this type of thing could be one of those things that'll take a court case or updated legislation to solve.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

IANAL, but most law that I've heard of regarding third party content requires the site hosting the content to conform to takedown notices issued. So, having a good DCMA system requires you to be able to take down content from instances that may not be bad, but governed differently.

As for the law "catching up with" federation sites, I don't see that happening unless Mastodon and Lemmy start creating massive lobbying arms.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

As for the law "catching up with" federation sites, I don't see that happening unless Mastodon and Lemmy start creating massive lobbying arms.

Forgot that's how America worked.

In the UK, you could just keep making noise until a member of parliament gets interested and mentions it once

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

So how does UK law handle federation?

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 48 minutes ago

No clue. Online Safety Act is a bin fire

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

AT proto's PDS architecture does solve that 👀

Edit: I do want to say that after reading this blog post I have become a bit more lenient on ATProto. It seemed rather neutral and objective and found several upsides that I think are worth taking a look at.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Has BlueSky implemented federation yet?

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

No, but if it did you could control where your data lived, because people do host their own PDS iirc for bluesky.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 9 hours ago
[–] iesha_256@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

wdym they not have federation yet, there are independent servers for every service (e.g. pds, relay, appview, moderation) except for PLC

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[–] Imperor@lemmy.world 118 points 22 hours ago

Microsoft is such a horrid company.

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 36 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (5 children)

The instance rules state;

3 . No impersonation of a person or a brand. Even parodies.

6 . Each username on here should be a person, not a brand or corporation - and that person must be you, no impersonation.

Now I'm not coming to the defense of a corporation because fuck corps but wouldn't this account violate those rules? Microsoft is a (shitty) brand and this is a parody of that.

I might be wrong but thats how I would interpret those two rules.

And again fuck microsoft, even if it does violate the instance rules it should be left alone just to piss of a shitty corp.

Edit: As TherapyGary pointed out, the instance they are on has no rule pertaining to parody accounts, My bad.

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 91 points 20 hours ago (13 children)

I believe the Microsoft account is hosted on Lea.pet, which doesn't have those rules

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[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

don’t harass people if there isn’t a valid reason for doing that

what a nothing rule lol, every harasser believes they are justified

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

This rule is my favorite lol

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 6 points 13 hours ago

I like rule 8

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 33 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

could be a rule break of number 9

are we sure on the English translation?

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[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 10 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

It's not hosted on that instance. It's hosted at another instance. You're making the same mistake that the Microsoft bot AI did.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Is it a mistake? Wouldn't federated content still count the same way legally, since an instance is also a website?

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

you're assuming that American law applies to people not living in America.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm not assuming that, I just don't see why would it even matter if it's from another instance.

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[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 18 points 20 hours ago

6 . Each username on here should be a person, not a brand or corporation - and that person must be you, no impersonation.

"I'm not a businessman, I'm a business, man!"

-Jay-Z regretting his words

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago

You're making the same mistake Microsoft made

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[–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 28 points 21 hours ago (6 children)

:D

Not that I have any sympathy for them but technically speaking, can we say "Microsoft does X" when it was just a "brand protection LLM"?
For sure they chose it to be an outward connection but are we really now stating that an LLM can represent a company? I feel like that's both "you are stupid for using LLMs that way" and empowering LLMs at the same time

[–] radiohead37@lemmy.world 67 points 21 hours ago

They are the ones who configured the tool to be used this way. Yes, Microsoft did that.

[–] troed@fedia.io 40 points 21 hours ago

You're always responsible for the actions of those that you choose to represent you. Regardless of how stupid they may be.

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