Still investigating cause of death, but it appears to be some sort of puncture wound in the neck region
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Of course he was targeted. The shooter is likely dead by now. They probably called it Operation Watch Charlie or something.
He was killed as a distraction.
Possible... but he had a lot of enemies, and there's more and more people with literally nothing left to lose in the USA every single day, so it was probably inevitable on a long enough timescale.
Who would have thought that making millions of people's lives actively worse in an already not great time in the most widely-armed country in the world could have POSSIBLY led to current events???
By that, do you mean Kirk made millions of people's lives worse? How exactly (other than by incessantly spouting bullshit)? Genuine question
Charlie Kirk wears a lot of the blame for the existence of guys like the jubilee fascists, he was a perpetrator of stochastic terrorism and increasing right-wing extremism.
I'm not saying he deserved to be shot, but he did not want and doesn't get any empathy from me.
after I typed this I realized I basically just said "yeah incessantly spouting bullshit"
When you're a mouthpiece of hate, and people who agree with you act on it by being shitty to someone they don't like, you've made many people's lives worse.When you're as prolific as he was, supporting a government that's actively mistreating the majority of its 300m+ population, you've made millions of people's lives worse.
Susie Wiles: "Sir, they leaked the live copy of your letter to Jeffery Epstein. It's having absolutely no effect on your public approval and Congress seems incapable of doing anything to stall your accrual of executive level powers. What should we do?"
Trump: "I'm a great president, Susie. Some say I'm the greatest president who ever lived. That's why I make the big decisions. And I've been thinking about this for a long time. We've got to save the nation. We need to get stronger. Some people are saying we're not strong, but they're wrong, Susie. This is the best this country has ever been and it's only going to get better. Are you ready to make this country better, Susie? I don't think you're ready... you're nodding. Does that mean you're ready?"
Susie Wiles: "Yes, Mr. President. Anything for you, Mr. President."
Trump: "Go talk to Pete Hegseth. He'll tell you what to do."
Pete Hegseth, drunkenly: "Susthy, ith so good to thee you again. But I lothe to wath you leaf."
Susie Wiles: "The President said you would know what to do."
Pete: "Yeah, uh... kill the big head guy. You know the one. With the tiny face."
Susie: "Charlie Kirk"
Pete: loud burping noise
Susie: "Right away, Mr. War Fighter Commander Pete."
sounds of gunfire
Susie Wiles: "Mr. President! In a strange turn of fate, it appears someone else shot Charlie Kirk before we could get to him."
Trump: "All according to plan, Susie. I'm the smartest man who ever lived. You can thank me with a kiss. Get over here, sweetie."
Susie: you can grab me by the pussy. I'll just let you do it.
Will this be excuse to send military to Utah or is he planning something else?
The bullet was fired from Chicago.
Hey, I live in the Chicago burbs and can tell you that I was at Lou's picking up my pizza at the same time the shooter was ordering his at the counter, so it couldn't have been him.
I heard Times Square and the likely sniper was Zohran Mamdani.
He's planning on going after all political dissenters from what he said when he addressed the nation yesterday
Yep, he's gonna make dissent illegal and start going after people who says shit he doesn't like all in the name of national security. Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon love this plan
Trump sending the military to Orem would be really friggin weird. Unless he's sending a brigade of recruiters.
What was the timing of the US Senate vote to not release the Epstein Files?
I swear you people would watch World War III kick off, vomiting your own digestive system out from acute radiation sickness, and still be saying "This is just a distraction from Epstein!"
More than one thing can happen on planet Earth. It doesn't all have to tie back to Trump and Epstein.
Hey man, we’re giving him the care and consideration he gave to sandy hook
As a wise man (i.e. me) once memed:
That's what someone who wants to distract from Epstein would say!
Things can still happen simultaneously. If a "distraction" is ruining lives then you shouldn't be ignoring it. If Trump enacts martial law to seize the country don't ignore it for the sake of it being a "distraction".
yeah but where are they?
!Epsteinfiles@lemmy.world
They're in the hands of people that despise us and would never release them voluntarily, let alone prosecute with any intent on conviction and sentencing.
But maybe if people keep posting funny title cards on social media they'll change their mind, I dunno.
The World War 3 has already has started, just many are refusing to acknowledge it. If Ukraine won't stop Russia it will continue to the rest of the Europe. We already North Korea fighting within Europe.
Going back to trump, he is all about himself and no empathy towards others. He is willing to get Ukrainians and Palestinians killed in exchange for whatever putin and bibi are giving him. He had no problem of having two politicians assassinated to just distract from No King protests.
So yeah, I wouldn't put past him to use him for political gain, like excuse to deploy military in Utah or some other goal he wants to achieve.
Wasn't Kirk on the release Epstein files bandwagon anyway? That sounds like something that would let you fall out of favor.
We are no longer in the first term where there were people that would say "no" to him.
Wars start all the time and don't escalate into worldwide conflicts. This is like saying "The next recession has started, just look at X!!!" It's really easy to make a doomer take, but when the doom fails to materialize, it's always "okay, sorry, we got the date wrong... but soon! Doooooooom!" Any sort of take like this deserves a blanket response: put up or shut up. Let's see your bet on Polymarket.
Conspiracy talk. Show me the proof. Or show me your bet on Polymarket that we will eventually find evidence.
Outside Moab and SLC (which are moderate), Utah is one of the reddest states in the union. From a despotic point of view, this makes no sense.
Trump's administration might be more competent now, but Trump himself certainly isn't. If he found himself suddenly not liking Kirk, I would expect to see him trash talking on TruthSocial.
A far more likely scenario: all the recent political violence we've been seeing is the result of unstable individuals in a politically divisive climate with unfettered access to firearms.
I mean, Russia's certainly looking like they want to try at Finland again with those troop buildups, and they're propping up a lot of armed agitators in Moldova, as well as a lot of sabotage across Central Europe (and now a drone incursion accidentally-maybe-not into Poland). Sure looks to me like if Russia isn't an aggressor nation towards Europe, they're doing a damn fine job imitating one.
Do they have the troops, morale, equipment, money, or veterancy to effectively prosecute a war against a nation that hasn't undergone serious regime change recently? My money is personally on no success, but I'm definitely willing to say that Putin will give it a try. He has leashed his entire wagon to the horse named "expansionism", and he NEEDS some sort of victory to keep any semblance of public support, no matter how jaded his populace might be - otherwise his dictator friends might get ideas on seizing Russian lands.
You don't fly a hundred of miles with a remotely controlled drone by accident.
Another thing is that to steer them they used Polish SIM cards. There was actually news that Ukrainians found Polish and Lithuanian SIM cards in short down drones, back in July, so this escalation was planned for weeks.
I'm not saying that Russia isn't being a class-a douchenozzle. I'm saying it hasn't escalated yet, there is still plenty of space for de-escalation, and predicting the future is really hard.
Sure that wars start all the time, but they typically is happening in unstable countries. This time we have war in a well established country which was invaded by its imperialist neighbor.
With trump basically dropping international law and outright saying that he won't help Europe, this will expand into rest Europe unless Russia bankrupts or Europe finds a good deterrent (it doesn't have one now, because US won't help).
Whatever you say. Awfully a lot of coincidences happens when trump is in power and all end up in his favor somehow.
The goal is to have military everywhere, red states likely will be prioritized last, but remember that the military wasn't deployed to California or was deployed to Los Angeles. He isn't threatening to deploy to Illinois, but to Chicago.
Anyway this was an example, looks like he uses this event to go after the opposition.
We don't even know who the killer was but it is already framed that "radical left" is behind it.
That and Israel keeps escalating on the fuck around scale, inevitably heading toward the find out axis.
uuh.... Oooh yeah (most, mostly right wingers) Americans always consider themselves as the only nation on this world. Yeah go ahead, do it.