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You misunderstood what I meant, so I must have communicated badly.
I meant, people who often say "leave me alone" are "libertarian" types who want to benefit from society without contributing as they're able (with money or labor). Think of the kind of guy who says "leave me alone! I don't want to pay taxes for some school. I don't even have kids." They benefit from public education, but they don't see it that way, and they'd rather keep that 20% of their paycheck than have a fire department. I wouldn't call a baby a "freeloader" because they're not really capable of doing much. It's when people can contribute but selfishly and self-destructively choose not to that I'm scornful.
In other words, when someone says their politics are "leave me alone" I am very suspicious of their understanding of society. They want the privileges of society without the obligations, typically.
When I say "leave me alone", I mean:
... just to then say, "oh! I'm just trying to make friends".
If that is how you (whoever that is) make friends, leave me alone. I don't want to be made into your "friend".
I don't think I've encountered any of those behaviors, except maybe rarely in like middle school. Those are not healthy, prosocial behaviors, nor are they commonplace.
Of course they aren't.
But you require that kind of experience to create a person that would go "leave me alone" with the pitiful tone of someone who has had to decrease their expectations from life more than what is commonplace.
And of course, even for a middle-schooler, that won't be enough.
On top of that you will require that whenever they were to try to complain to the teacher about it, they then would have to be told off instead of being helped. Because you are "not supposed to study in the study room during the afternoon rest time", even though you will not get to sleep either, because others are wrestling around in the dormitory.
Then check your privilege before judging those who experience this kind of stuff.
That's fair, sorry I assumed the worst from the language I used. Weathy Libertarian Freeloaders ...i suppose I understand the term being applied to them.
Selfish nihilists is what I call them, values-free economic nihilists.