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French invented metric system...
yeah this is imperial washing. they setup a colony and left it with an antiquated system of measures, then cheated off their neighbor for a better one.
And the worst part is, they didn't even adopt it completely. They were not even going the complete mile.
Whatever happened to going the whole nine yards?
Oh, you!
And legally America does use the metric system...
Yes, since the 60' in the US the measurements are based on the metric system.
In 1959 the inch was redefined to be exactly 25.4mm.
So the US and any other country using the imperial system is just using metric but which weird conversion just to make things harder.
I think it technically suggest the use of the metric system but doesn't mandate its use. And so practically speaking its not used much outside of science fields.
And at least Americans use a consistent system of measures. Not the weird half breed that the UK uses.
the more metric the better. in that regard, the UK is better than the US. of course, both are inferior to any other country which only uses the metric system
Are there any? E.g. here in Germany we use kcal instead of kJ for food energy density. Also horsepower is used instead of W for engines. But for the most part we use only metric.
I'm wondering if there are countries where they completely conform to the metric system.
At least when you use calories and kilocalories you don't have to multiply by 12 or 3 or 5820 when you want to compare a big and a small number.
Of all the terrible non-metric things Americans use the Fahrenheit is the most defensible. It's just idiotic when the rest of the world uses metric.
Why do you guys have so much identity tied up in the metric system
it's not about identity, it's just fucking weird to meassure length in bananas, volume in how much water the puddle on your street contains, or temperature in how hot the inside of your asshole is on two different days
Says I miss the point and then straw mans an entire system of measurement. Seems like you're just a little too invested in the metric system.
I merely compared the idiotic randomness behind the imperial system to those behind my made up measurement system, showing that both are similarly stupid
You think you're proving me wrong but you actually keep proving me right. Why is this so personal to you?
If I might make an argument for the imperial system? I’ll acknowledge that it is bad, particularly from a scientific perspective, but one advantage that imperial has over metric is its use case for human related issues. Most of the stuff you interact with daily is much more easily measured in feet and inches vs meters and centimeters (this ignores decimeters, but I’ve literally never seen anyone use decimeters in my entire life). Another good example is temperature. Celsius is more objective, but when dealing with the standard sorts of temperatures humans are generally concerned with, Fahrenheit gives you more granularity within that range.
All that is to say: If I’m at work and someone uses imperial for an official measurement, I’m putting my fist through the drywall, but from a day to day perspective, I actually prefer imperial.
Also, the mile is fucking indefensible. I’ll happily leave all 5280 of its feet out to rot.
... only if it's what you're used to.
Hard disagree. The centimeter is the best measurement there is for everyday stuff, you can easily express both round values or weird ones, and don't need to switch between two scales as you do with feet and inches (and the stupid fact that there's 12 inches in a feet, wtf). Meters are for distances.
BECAUSE THE METRIC SYSTEM IS DECIMAL AND YOU DON'T NEED STUPID CHANGES BETWEEN UNITS, MOST PEOPLE JUST SAY TEN CENTIMETERS!
If you're measuring ambient temperature, 99% of the time being more precise than 1°C is pointless, in a room you may have more variance than that from a corner to another, same goes for outside. For things where you need better precision you sure as hell wouldn't be using the imperial system, and you could instead take advantage of this neat trick called DECIMALS.
Edit: addendum for everyday convenience: buying shit at the supermarket. The label expresses price per kilo but the packaging is in grams? You don't even need to think about it. Drinks? They can even mix litres and kilos, no problem, the difference would be below negligible.
Here in Italy we usually ask for meat cuts in "etti", aka hecto grams aka 100grams, so I look at a cut, I see it's 35€/kg, I ask for 3 etti, immediately know it'll be 10.5€ (ALSO BECAUSE SALES TAX IS INCLUDED ON THE LABEL FFS)
No, actually 12 inches in a foot goes hard. base 12 >>>>> base 10
I mean if we used 12 numerals it could be good, but we don't, so...
Even using 10 numerals, it's way better for dividing. It divides into 2, 3, 4, and 6 evenly. You only get 2 and 5 with base 10 units.
Fair. I’ll acknowledge I’m biased here in retrospect. In particular, I’ve realized my argument for Fahrenheit (increased granularity) is directly contradictory to my argument against centimeters (too much granularity). Indeed, my view (however poorly conveyed) was that imperial units of length measurement, and the foot in particular, lend themselves to day to day estimation of size, as meters require estimation with fractions/decimals and centimeters require estimation in quantities too large to be reasonably accurate, so I was of the view that the lack of decimeters in common usage was a problem, but you make a good point that this is a fundamentally flawed assumption. After all, if you’re familiar with metric already, it’s not particularly difficult to just say ‘10cm’ and estimate in relation to tenths of a meter.
Well argued, and certainly more impassioned than my tepid defense of imperial. Consider me convinced; I’m switching teams lol.
Good! Here your kilo of sea-level water, use it wisely.
It is not best for "human related" issues at all, imperial is pretty bad for those as well, but because you have grown up with it it seems so to you.
Yeah, I’m realizing this is just a bias toward familiarity on my part. There’s several bad assumptions that I made in there which I hadn’t really given too much thought; bad practice on my part, I’ll admit.
fucking stones.
they measure thing in stones, still. the uk acts all uppity about metric shit and still uses imperial garbage variably all over.