The band said on Monday “let us be unequivocal: we do not, and have never, supported Hamas or Hezbollah.”
“We condemn all attacks on civilians, always,” the band said.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I find it hard to reconcile that with the video, but if they are willing to publicly apologize for it then they should be allowed into Canada.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's really easy to reconcile that with the video. It's called watching the atrocities that Israel commits, and getting angry enough that you say something you don't entirely mean or haven't entirely thought through.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This seems a foreign concept to many folks here and elsewhere online, but somehow I've managed to be horrified by Israel's genocide and want to end it, without ever thinking "you know what, the literal terrorists on the other side are good actually, death to Israel and all Jews".

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Oh wow! I'm so glad to hear that! We all care sooo much about your personal experience with anger!

Thank God the way that you get angry and emotional, is the exact same way that everyone else does, in every single situation!

Whew, for a second there I thought we might have to use the power of remembering times when we were extremely angry and said things we didn't mean, and try and combine that with empathy to apply it to the current situation, but thank God we don't because /u/Cyrus here has explained that he's never said anything he didn't mean out of anger. So obviously everyone else must be the same in every situation.

Thank you cyrus, we all believe your words sooo much, and definitely don't just think you're a brain dead dumbass.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

FYI what you're advocating and defending here is textbook abuser behaviour, so rather than belittling others you may want to get counseling.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Lmao, tell us you spend all your time on the internet without telling us you spend all your time on the internet.

Go outside. Experience real human interaction.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In abusive relationships, abusive partners often apologize but are unwilling to make changes or behave differently. We see them using “sorry” as a child might; to make the situation okay without facing the consequences of their choices. We even hear abusers using apologies to manipulate their partners and avoid taking responsibility for their actions. Some common phrases abusers may use include, “I’m sorry I hurt you, but you shouldn’t have gotten me so angry,” or “I didn’t see healthy relationships growing up and don’t know what to do, I’m sorry.” While this may sound like an apology, it places the blame elsewhere instead of on the abuser’s choice.

Research and outcomes of partnerships in various contexts, including intimate partnerships, have shown these self-centered approaches do not drive collaboration, a core factor in healthy partnerships. Only when an abusive partner takes accountability for their actions and begins steps to prevent the behavior in the future (I.e., battering or counseling focused on changing the abusive mindset) can they begin to make amends.

https://www.thehotline.org/resources/what-if-my-abusive-partner-apologizes/