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[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol "white washing Russian racism," when I say we shouldn't advocate to genocide a country for having racist people. You aren't advocating for genocides of all the other racist countries.

Again, what people are allowed to say publicly isn't the same as their actual opinion. Many many Russians are literally related to Ukrainians, especially at the border, and many have married each other and would travel back and forth between the countries as is common in Eastern Europe.

What I said wasn't false at all. You in fact confirmed it lol. Also, those casualties could be repeat casualties as they have sent people back to war even with injuries.

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/crp/2025/07/31/putins-militant-buryats-and-the-ukraine-war-myths-and-facts/

As Russia’s military leadership doesn’t disclose any data on the true scale or ethnic/regional composition of its war losses, the only sources of such information are obituaries and social media posts about Russian army soldiers killed in action. This type of data has been collected by various activist groups, including those collaborating with Mediazona and BBC News Russian.

During the first 20 days of the invasion, a staggering 4.1% of Russia’s confirmed war casualties were from Buryatia, though only 0.6% of Russia’s working-age male population lives in the region. Ethnic Buryats (almost exclusively from Buryatia and Transbaikalia) made up 2.5% of Russia’s confirmed death toll over the same period, though Buryats make up only 0.35% of Russia’s population.

Again, their lives depend on them lying about this. It's like asking North Koreans if the absolutely love Kim Jong Un. They have to say yes publicly. They literally send bad faith actors tontest people and snatch them into prisons. Anyone is dangerous and suspect, even a poll.

By your own admission there are significant Russian peoples rising against this administration. So by your own admission everything you said justifying your advocacy of their genocide was false. One being Pussy Riot ofc. Use Youtube? Some of these people don't have electricity or plumbing and cant read. Not to mention many literally believe their government monitors absolutely everything online anyway, so they can't really seek out online content without significant education in cyber security... which they also can't look up without suspicion.

YOU are a genocidal imperialist. That's you projecting onto them.

Lol this is all so pathetic of you and stems from your inability to make friends/being a loser when there, so you have a personal vendetta to genocide them all. Assuming you aren't a literal warmongering bot.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I knew you would ignore the research I cited. If you bothered to read the articles, you would have known that the list experiment methodology specifically addresses the notion of preference falsification (i.e it accounts for the number of people lying; it is small).

By your own admission there are significant Russian peoples rising against this administration.

I cited a source that show 85% support for the annexation of Crimea (with accounting for preference falsification) and you come up with this bullshit.

Thank you for this! I couldn't have done a better job myself.

P.S. I do know several Ukrainians from border oblasts with russian relatives. Not a single one even called them to ask if they were OK.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How can a poll get an accurate answer if everyone is paranoid they will be killed unless they all say the same thing? Do you think the polls of North Koreans are accurate? Yeah, 100% of North Koreans SAY they love their government, but that isn't actually true.

There is no way to detect lying. That is the consensus of every expert on lying in the world. We have never been able to trick people into revealing inner thoughts they didn't want to, not for thousands of years. Not with all the drugs and torture by intelligence agencies for decades, not with lie detectors. In fact what you linked admits there are limitations, because asking ANY question about the war scares Russians and makes them think it is a government entity spying on them. Also, the survey was done online, where Russia psyops dominate, and could partially be a measure of online bots.

I doubt you know any Ukrainians, because they are literally working with Russian rebels and they understand this as well. Russians not being able to communiate for fear of death by their government supports my points.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I told you you that we are not going to create a Nobel in sociology just for you. Just because you think "There is no way to detect lying" doesn't make it true. The methodology is clearly explained in the first article I cited, list experiments don't involved asking question you lazy ignoramus.

I live in Ukraine. I am originally from Donbas. You don't know jack shit about russia, Ukraine or the war.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago

What SPECIFICALLY do you want done to the Russian people to make them suffer via violence - your words - be specific. List the actions. And then we can discuss if those fall into torture or mass killing categories.

I read that article and again, anything mentioning the war will always get that response from Russians because they fear government crackdown. But I accept we disagree here, fine.

So: What SPECIFICALLY do you want done to the Russian people to make them suffer via violence - your words - be specific. List the actions. And then we can discuss if those fall into torture or mass killing categories.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also, sure, Jan, you totally live in Ukraine and are just happening to mention it now, so that you can justify your advocacy of genocide.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What about the big drinking problem that most Russians have. How does that factor into it?

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol substance use is a medical condition, don't be ableist.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Seriously, do you think the fact that 90% of Russian men are drunkards affects their world view and makes them more prone to violence?

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What SPECIFICALLY do you want done to the Russian people to make them suffer via violence - your words - be specific. List the actions, coward. And then we can discuss if those fall into torture or mass killing categories.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

i dont want anyone to suffer. Peace and love to all.