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Well I already have jellyfin running in a container, just have to figure out how to get mum's TV to work with it I guess

log in on a local IP and not the network name and it's working again. but I'll be moving to jellyfin from now

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[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

So don't expose it to the internet - which should be the default stance for anything.

The internet was (mistakenly and intentionally) built without security - that doesn't mean we should just accept that, but instead build everything with our own security.

Numerous mesh VPN solutions exist: Hamachi has been around since at leas 2006. NeoRouter since at least 2012. Then we have Wireguard and Tailscale, and others.

Business build their own tunnels between locations, using routers/gateways with that capability. Consumer routers from Linksys could do this in 2006.

There's zero excuse for running anything exposed to the internet.

In closing NO SOFTWARE is free of bugs. With Plex you get to pay for those bugs and still have software that depends on a connection even though you're hosting and viewing your own media, locally.

You wanna denigrate Jellyfin, at least be honest about the pros/cons between the different solutions.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

So don't expose it to the internet

No

Thwres zero excuse for running anything exposed to the internet.

...except this entire thread is based on a use case for it

With Plex you get to pay for those bugs and still have software that depends on a connection even though you're hosting and viewing your own media, locally.

You're condescending dude. I wouldn't be using Plex if I didn't understand like 37 things you're implying I don't understand here. I paid for it once, it was a good value for me, and I find it pretty weird that you apparently want to admonish me for that. If you want to use jellyfin have at it. I found it buggy to the point of barely being usable. Just sharing that experience and I don't need anyone to agree with that.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don't expose stuff to the internet

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Are you advocating for an self hosting to only exist locally? Or are you advocating for hosting everything on corporate servers?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't expose things to the internet

That goes for corporate settings as well as personal stuff. You almost certainly do not need your self hosted services to be publicly accessible by bots. Anything on the internet gets pounded.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

... You just literally said hosting shouldn't exist. You are using the Internet right now.

Also pretty weird to keep phrasing this as a command, discounting an entire class of use cases to be invalid because bad actors exist?

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

...except this entire thread is based on a use case for it

Except it's not. OP is trying to watch stuff on his own network.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Then they aren't doing it correctly, or lying. That is an included/free feature. They advertise it that way and other users ITT say it works. I've no reason to doubt them.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The problems with Plex are not technical. The problems from Plex are that they take away features and change the terms of use to the detriment of the user. Given plex's pricing changes over the last year, I would be concerned that your lifetime pass be affected by some policy change.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes, they changed the free featureset, and afaik those changes were fair. Providing a tunnel for remote streaming for free doesn't seem like a good business plan. I mean, yeah they could always back out of the promise of what a lifetime pass is, and if they do I will find a new solution and hope they're sued for it.

If they do back out of their lifetime commitment, I suspect that would drive some other similar apps to get better. Maybe I would even learn to live with jellyfin as it currently exists in that situation. But so far I don't see a reason to, and that would almost have been true if I never paid for plex.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fair enough.

I'm speaking from both sides here, having used Plex for years and now jellyfin:

Don't tie technical competence of a product with its monetary cost. They are not necessarily equivalent.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I didn't realize I did that. Given that my opinion on OSes is that "the larger the budget, the shittier it is", I don't knowingly do what you're suggesting here. Linux over windows and macOS any day.