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Well I already have jellyfin running in a container, just have to figure out how to get mum's TV to work with it I guess

log in on a local IP and not the network name and it's working again. but I'll be moving to jellyfin from now

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[–] octobob@lemmy.ml 14 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Something that's getting glossed over in these comments is the ability to easily watch or listen to friends' media.

I have my own library with about 1k movies, a bunch of anime and TV, and 10k albums. But I have like 6 or 7 friends with libraries even larger. My one friend has 37k albums, they all have thousands of movies I never even heard of, etc. It really makes it like my own mini streaming service, and I love throwing on a huge music library on shuffle via plexamp while driving to/from work.

I paid like $70 for a lifetime pass years ago, so I'm along for the ride I guess. I really rely on the music aspect of it, I haven't had a spotify subscription in like 7 years.

I know they changed a lot lately, and particularly what pisses me off is how vague and how they intentionally obfuscate how their model works now. I have friends that for years used my library, and recently have been like "I saw Plex started charging now so I stopped using it" and I have to be like "no it's still free because I have a lifetime pass". It's definitely just to trick people into getting monthly subscriptions.

[–] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

the ability to easily watch or listen to friends’ media

Why do you think this can't be done with Jellyfin?

[–] octobob@lemmy.ml 11 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

My friends don't have it set up. Some of them are friends of friends, and people I don't talk to regularly. I'm not going to try and convert them. It's also a bit more complicated via tailscale or VPN reverse proxies and Plex "just werks". If there's anything beyond just installing an app and clicking an invite, a bunch of people who use my library are going to have a hard time. Like my dad, he's pushing 70. My friends would also have to do the goofy networking setup for it to work for me.

I'm also not even sure if people I share with have means of installing. My one friend who uses my library a lot does it through a Samsung TV. That involves sideloading the app to install jellyfin.

Lastly, like I said, music. Plexamp is one of my #1 used apps. There's a lot that goes into that beyond just being able to play media. It curates playlists depending on what you just listened to or gives you similar artists, similar to how Spotify makes a "radio" after playing something.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 points 2 hours ago

the thing that everyone always glosses over is that jellyfin should not be run on a public network. it has known security vulnerabilities… that includes VPN remote proxy, so now you have to have external users on your actual VPN, and if that’s the case then plex will work fine because it’s “local”, and has a lot more features

(and my main issue: media segments don’t work on swiftfin)

[–] mintiefresh@piefed.social 36 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I got the Plex lifetime pass over 10 years ago for pretty cheap and Plex has served me well over the years. But it's just so damn bloated now and the biggest recent change to their android app is atrocious. The app is so laggy and slow now. And downloading movies to watch locally on a tablet is just painful.

So I decided to start experimenting with Jellyfin this month and I am blown away at how fast and snappy everything is. It still isn't as refined as Plex but there's something to be said about privacy and using FOSS apps.

I'll be using Jellyfin going forward now.

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 2 points 15 hours ago

I'm glad I really only use it for music, but the fire TV app works decently well. Better than the fucking Netflix app, at least.

[–] tfw_no_toiletpaper@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I jumped ship early on. They didn't include skipping intros (or removed the plugin or the capability to use plugins, I don't remember).

Went to Jellyfin, took like 2 hours to figure out what's different. I don't even remember, are there any features worth it staying on Plex? At least I'm not missing anything.

Also for watch together you start a watch group and can watch a show episode for episode. Instead of having to open each episode separately and having everyone join again (but maybe Plex fixed this already, I wouldn't know).

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

my main issues

  • jellyfin has known security vulnerabilities and shouldn’t be run on a public network. that means everyone using your server remotely needs to be on a VPN… and then you may as well use plex because it’s “local” so the remote streaming thing doesn’t apply
  • swiftfin (which i need for apple tv) doesn’t support media segments
[–] coronach@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 hours ago

What are the vulnerabilities?

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

ur missing out on seeing 20 dollars a month go down the drain. fool. jumped ship before the good stuff

[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 2 points 8 hours ago

man, i remember paying like 40 bucks for lifetime premium on plex.

[–] ftbd@feddit.org 1 points 9 hours ago

That's how you know it's valueable! I don't want some crappy product they give away for free. \s

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 18 hours ago

Just as an FYI, Jellyfin doesn't charge money for.... well, anything.

[–] candyman337@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago

Genuinely Plex has become so obtrusive about NEW FEATURES, NOW WE HAVE THIS, USE THIS THUS WAY!!! and then also my libraries have somehow become even slower to load. I've been using jellyfin way more often

[–] Zink@programming.dev 31 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Longtime lifetime Plex Pass holder here.

FOSS is important. Having control over how you use your own hardware and files is important.

But even if none of that mattered, once I actually used Jellyfin for a few days the snappy bloat-free feel of it won me over. Switching between Plex and Jellyfin felt like switching between windows and linux.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

what is FOSS

I've also got lifetime plex pass. I might take more of an interest in Jellyfin if there was an easy way to transfer all of my server settings, playlists, metadata, etc. over. But it just seems like such a hastle to make the switch and I really don't have any big issues with plex aside from needing to change the settings so they don't sell my data.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 4 hours ago

FOSS is free and open source software. And the word "free" does a lot of heavy lifting there because it refers to much more than it typically not costing anything. It means that you have the freedom to do what you want with your stuff, basically. You (or others on your behalf) can see the source code for what the software is doing, and you can even change and improve it.

You'll see the word "libre" thrown around in this context too, for that reason. For many people the liberty side of free matters a lot more than the no-cost side. But they do go hand in hand, because not needing to protect a revenue stream makes it a lot easier to not enshittify software. You'll see names like LibreOffice and FLOSS instead of FOSS.

So it's basically the whole Linux world that is very well represented on Lemmy and the fediverse. :)

Sent using FOSS Voyager web client ...in FOSS browser LibreWolf (a fork of FireFox) ...on FOSS operating system Linux.

I use Mint btw.
(This is an inside joke for the other Linux people -- a play off of "I use Arch btw" where Arch Linux is a hardcore distro where you kind of build your operating system piece by piece, but with excellent documentation. Valve switched SteamOS to be based on Arch a while back)

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I have a lot of custom artwork, covers, playlists, etc. How easy did that data migrate? I've got 6,500 movies

[–] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I can't imagine moving over would be difficult. Just point Jellyfin to the same folder containing your content. When I first setup my home lab, I was going to use Plex, but I could not get it to recognize media. The naming format wasn't right or something. Jellyfin just worked immediately

[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

man, I've manually setup tons of huge playlists, and entered in a hell of a lot of TV show information by hand so episodes play in an order I like. Getting that working in plex probably constitutes days of work. I don't want to even think about re-doing that in jelly fin. If there were a way to automate the process though, I'd probably be more interested.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

My problem too.

[–] fantacyde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 18 hours ago

Very new to using Jellyfin but I also feel the difference in loading and such. Feels so much cleaner! Already uninstalled Plex :)

[–] Comrade_Squid@lemmy.ml 15 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Fellow jellyfin user 😍

For a perfect pairing, Jellyfin + Tailscale.

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[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 84 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (22 children)

Remember when Plex tried to sell you a subscription to use outdated versions of open source game console emulators?

Plex wants to be a profit-driven company, but their business model is piracy. They'll squeeze you for subscriptions, while making your experience worse to try and broker a peace deal with content owners.

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[–] kratoz29@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imagine wanting to charge to stream your own media with your own hardware and resources... Hey wait, we don't have to imagine it anymore, Plex already did it.

I forgot as I am a Plex Pass Lifetime user, and oh boy I'll be sure to milk that out (actually after all these years I think I have already done that) just to keep being an annoying stat for Plex and nothing else 🤣

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Aren't they charging because it passes through their servers so you don't have to expose your server directly to the public Internet?

Like, I pay $5 a month to access my Home Assistant setup remotely, although I could do it cheaper with my own AWS setup. But the money goes to development, so I'm happy to contribute.

[–] kratoz29@lemmy.zip 1 points 13 hours ago

Yeah... That only applies for non CGNATED networks, and as we are in 2025 I'd say most users worldwide are CGNATED or don't have an IPv6 address... Or worse, both.

If you are CGNATED Plex approach is useless, as their relay sucks as it only lets you play up to 2 (or 4 can't remember) mbps 720p files lol (server will transcode to meet those requirements), if they wanted to charge for remote streaming they should at least increase the minimum Mbps allowed in their relay, that way I understand they fall into server costs by proxying our media... But until that happens, charging for remote streaming is a completely joke (much more if we have free alternatives to keep doing so in a plethora of devices thanks to Tailscale and Zerotier, the true GOATS with a CGNAT environment).

[–] this@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 day ago

So glad I installed jellyfin years ago and never bothered to set up Plex.

[–] Maroon@lemmy.world 241 points 1 day ago (56 children)

Be prepared for a barrage of "Jellyfin" in your comments.

But yea seriously, use Jellyfin.

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[–] carrylex@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago (8 children)
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[–] Kirk@startrek.website 45 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (17 children)

I know it's fashionable to shit on Plex here, but OP either has his server misconfigured or is just trying to stir the pot:

https://support.plex.tv/articles/202526943-plex-free-vs-paid/

Free to Use: Video (movies & TV) streaming of personal content on the same local network as the Plex Media Server

[–] fosho@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago

except not via mobile devices. you have to pay for the app to work.

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Aaaand that’s one of the reasons why I got rid of Plex. “Bought” it, then they found some other feature to paywall. Bought that, then another feature. Then it stopped playing files of certain extensions through chromecast. Fuck that. Put together Jellyfin and moved my collection over. Zero trouble since.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

I used Plex about 12 years ago. The first time my internet went down, and I couldn't use it, I stopped using it. Garbage. Not what I wanted.

I used Windows Media Center as long as I could, I loved it. But, eventually, I had to leave Windows 8 behind. Now I use Jellyfin and SABnzbd, it works okay most of the time, but I don't serve media to the outside, so I don't know if it works for that.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

Jellyfin or Emby.

What’s plex better at?

[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

If I’m not mistaken Emby started to do some sketchy stuff which birthed Jellyfin.

[–] MrNobody@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 21 hours ago

Getting people to pay to watch their locally stored media?

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