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Under the order, private businesses can choose to display signage indicating that ICE cannot enter without a warrant—thereby designating “their property as part of a city-wide network of community spaces that stand together in affirming the safety, dignity, and belonging of all of our residents,” the mayor said.

Johnson touted the order for building “a broad civic shield that limits the reach of harmful enforcement practices. It strengthens neighborhood solidarity and it reaffirms Chicago’s role as a welcoming city.”

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[–] FreeMindFreeAss@lemmy.world 70 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

My great-grandfather would lose his shit if someone had told him that feds would be invading states against the wishes of the local governments. We forgot what America is supposed to be.

[–] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 39 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

My grandfather fought actual Nazis, sometimes I ask myself what he would think of our political situation today.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

He'd be under investigation for being a member of a terrorist organization.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

My grandfather fought actual Nazis

My grandfather was in the Navy during the 1940s. My uncle was in the FBI during the 1980s. My brother is in the National Guard in the 2020s.

The times, they are a-changin'.

I ask myself what he would think of our political situation today.

There's a joke about going back to 1789 and telling George Washington what has happened in the past 250 years.

And his first response is "Wait, you let a black guy become president?! That's not what we fought for!"

His second response probably involves asking to see "Hot MILFs in your neighborhood"

[–] nymnympseudonym@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago

I am older; my Dad was an older guy when he had me. He fought in WWII.

Growing up he always told me: "I fought the jackboots. One day it will be your turn."

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 24 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

I don't know what happened to all the pre Rand Paul libertarians that everybody thought were paranoid talking about government overreach in the 90s?

Federal agents dropping from a fucking helicopter to an apartment building in Chicago, kicking down doors, zip tying crying children, keeping people they just pulled from their homes in cuffs for hours without letting them contact a lawyer, and raiding the entire building like fucking pirates to steal peoples valuables is so fucking far beyond "overreach."

[–] nymnympseudonym@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago

what happened to all the pre Rand Paul libertarians

I was one of them. I was in deep. I've met Ron Paul multiple times. I know some of his former staffers.

I will tell you what happened:

  • They were right that in fact the Government is spying on everyone, and bald-face lied about it (Clapper)
  • They then assumed that the Government can only lie, and that everything official is by definition untrue
  • A supermajority of them are religious faithful. They can be super educated but they still believe in Bronze-Age fairy stories and "personal Truth"
  • ... which made them easy targets for Russian disinfo

It's so banal. But it's the truth. I know because I watched my former friends turn into people who intentionally spread COVID, to "show up the hoax"

[–] FreeMindFreeAss@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They're keeping us separated by race. As long as it's "inner-city thugs" aka black people or latinos, the majority of rural America can handle it until it's too late especially if they only consumer curated propaganda. Well, that's what they hope. the people in charge of this are actually pretty fucking stupid though. Let's show them how wrong they are.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Started with immigrants, definitely moving towards targeting people in inner cities to test the waters, then based on that recent memo next is "Antifa" or anyone opposed to the Trump admin.

People still refusing to see this are in for a hell of surprise when they wake up to a swat team raiding their suburban and rural homes, and find out wanting the Epstein files released means you're also an official member of Antifa.

[–] FreeMindFreeAss@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I'm an eternal optimist as long as I can breathe air and feel love. I think they're moving too fast. I think they've crossed their Rubicon and what's waiting in Rome isn't what they think it will be.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I’m an eternal optimist

Yikes, how does that happen?

[–] FreeMindFreeAss@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Haahaha to be honest, psychedelics and a near-death experience. All I know, is that whatever happens after death (which appears to be a lot, a lot more than what happens here) as long as I can keep my soul as clean as possible, the physical comings and goings of this place are very transient. Spreading love when I can brings it back and then I can share it again. The poorest people have nothing but money.

Prolly it's a defense mechanism too because of how fucked things are, but I have felt and seen far too much love and beauty to allow myself to be defeated by the biggest losers on the planet. Fuck that, life rocks. They can eat shit, I'm gonna rave my way to the apocalypse if that's where we're goin. And if it doesn't, we don't need to wait that long for the end, so what's the worry either way?

But the psychedelics and MDMa were the keys tbh, would have been harder to get there otherwise.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Man, I hope you are right. They sure as hell have been moving very fast.

[–] FreeMindFreeAss@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

They are, I'm a pretty good judge of people A lot of them seem fine-tuned to the legal system in the same way that an ant is fine tuned to move sand. They don't seem to have a lot of instinct as to human relations, and there are 330 million of us to relate to. We can't take it forever. And I believe they think that we can. I grew up redneck as possible. My family and old friend group are getting pissed. that is a fucking pterodactyl in the coalmine if you knew those guys.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Turns out they were just projecting the whole time. Oops.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Personally? I got a little older, developed my sense of empathy more and stopped associating with libertarians.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I got older, developed more empathy but especially during these times, I have more and more found myself drawn to civil libertarianism. I don't want government overreach regardless of who's in charge. The people (not corporations) are supposed to control the government, not be controlled by the government.

Government involvement in people's personal lives should be minimized when possible while keeping in mind that the entire point of having a government is supposed to be to protect and benefit the people. Except, for some dumb fucking reason, we let the supreme court decide that corporations are people too.

I think if we have any chance of surviving, we have to make overturning Citizens United a nonpartisan issue (which it really should be and easily could be if all the propaganda and disinformation around it was removed).

T.L.D.R.:Government regulations should protect and serve people not control them. A government controlled by the people (bc surprise, people are not corporations) should regulate corporations and technology, not the other way around. I do not buy that human focused (as in protections for the people, their rights and their privacy) regulations placed on corporations and technology are "inhibiting progress" any more than I would believe somebody telling me we need to start cutting brake lines in all vehicles bc they "inhibit speed."

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

My great-grandfather would lose his shit if someone had told him that feds would be invading states against the wishes of the local governments.

Ah yes, I recall that sentiment very common to the 1860s in certain sub-Mason Dixon line states. Also popular in the 1950s after Brown v Board.

Unfortunately, the times have changed and the Neo-Confederates are the ones running DC now.