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I realized something interesting: Sometime yesterday, the almost unanimous majority of the pro-Hasan commenters shifted over into accusing people of being fans of some other streamer who I have barely heard of, or of being taken in by random streamer drama. They're all pretty familiar with streamer drama and all of the personalities at work in this weird little space.

That means that more or less every single one of the normies who just happened to run across this clip without being deep into streamer lore, had the same logical horrified reaction to it. The only people defending Hasan (with maybe like 1-2 exceptions, people who watched the clip and decided it didn't look like a big deal to them) are people with some kind of parasocial thing going on, who are assuming that everyone else in the thread obviously has some alternate parasocial thing going on also.

He has admitted to owning a shock collar

I mean, what he said was that his roommate owned a shock collar, and that he was against them. It was a little unclear to me but it didn't exactly sound like he was admitting much of anything in that clip (if the one you have in mind is also the one I'm thinking of).

Twitter is now saying they figured out what collar he has, and that it's the shock version of it that he took the prongs out of and then put black tape on the back of the box, and that's why he was so incredibly hesitant to show it for more than 0.2 seconds or move his hand away from that weird sort of cardshark grip he had the collar in the entire time. I thought about making a separate post with the quick overview video which is all I've seen so far, but I'm honestly mostly done with dealing with this shit at least for tonight and I don't really want to post it and start another kerfuffle until I can look at the details a decent amount myself. Here's that video though (with some irritatingly quick scrolls through a document which lays out some of the details, you'll have to pause to really be able to see anything, but it does make sense if you pause it and look):

https://files.catbox.moe/x0kbh4.mp4

And yes, I agree. The main thing that makes me think he's a POS is his overall tone and emotional affect, and the dog's reactions to him. If she just yelped on stream right after he reached for something, but then his overall way of interacting with her was normal and caring instead of exactly the opposite of that, then I probably wouldn't think twice about it.

Did Hasan teach you this trick, of just repeating over and over again the same statement (after someone provides a video of the abuse, has a lengthy discussion about the plausibility of theories like "it's a GPS collar" and goes through individual frames to show what they're talking about or timelapses of a longer amount of the stream), as if whoever simply refuses to shut up for the longest automatically wins the disagreement? Obviously you're not trying to make a factual point, since this whole thread is basically me providing evidence. I think the thing you are trying to do doesn't really work in a format like this, I'm sure it is better if you can say "You have no credibility and no evidence. Goodbye." and then kick the person from your stream or something, but that's not what we are doing.

I honestly don't have much more to say. Like I said, I thought about showing some of the freeze frames blown up from the video, showing that she definitely didn't catch her dewclaw on the metal bar next to her for example, but what would be the point. Anyone who cares enough can put the clip through mpv and see it for themselves (and being able to watch in context and flip around is better than the freeze frames anyway). Honestly as a broader point if you don't have the emotional intelligence to see what is clearly present in Hasan's and Kaya's behavior just in the original clips, I don't know what to tell you, and I don't really feel like you and me talking further to each other about it is productive in any way at this point.