1 sure looks like him activating a shock collar because he doesn't want her allowed to do anything other than sit in one designated spot while he's doing his stream
As he has said in previous streams, he doesn't care about the health of dogs because "they're just dogs". He has admitted to owning a shock collar and blamed his dog for being too fat when a guest on his stream pointed out that his dog's collar was way too tight. There are so many red flags against this dude, it is incredibly obvious to anyone who isn't a psychopath that this is a bad dog owner.
I mean, what he said was that his roommate owned a shock collar, and that he was against them. It was a little unclear to me but it didn't exactly sound like he was admitting much of anything in that clip (if the one you have in mind is also the one I'm thinking of).
Twitter is now saying they figured out what collar he has, and that it's the shock version of it that he took the prongs out of and then put black tape on the back of the box, and that's why he was so incredibly hesitant to show it for more than 0.2 seconds or move his hand away from that weird sort of cardshark grip he had the collar in the entire time. I thought about making a separate post with the quick overview video which is all I've seen so far, but I'm honestly mostly done with dealing with this shit at least for tonight and I don't really want to post it and start another kerfuffle until I can look at the details a decent amount myself. Here's that video though (with some irritatingly quick scrolls through a document which lays out some of the details, you'll have to pause to really be able to see anything, but it does make sense if you pause it and look):
And yes, I agree. The main thing that makes me think he's a POS is his overall tone and emotional affect, and the dog's reactions to him. If she just yelped on stream right after he reached for something, but then his overall way of interacting with her was normal and caring instead of exactly the opposite of that, then I probably wouldn't think twice about it.
I mean, what he said was that his roommate owned a shock collar, and that he was against them. It was a little unclear to me but it didn’t exactly sound like he was admitting much of anything in that clip (if the one you have in mind is also the one I’m thinking of).
He says he bought it and still has it (at the time of the stream that was clipped from). He also said they're incredibly effective. By itself that video doesn't mean much, but there seems to be a consistent trail of evidence against the guy, certainly enough that no sane person would immediately dismiss the concerns.
Maybe. Like I said, the overall body language from the dog, and his tone of voice when he talks about her, and also him lying about objectively verifiable things, mean more to me on the topic than a lot of these clips that people are talking about.
(For example, the fact that back then he was saying that shock collars are mean and he doesn't believe in them, and he's bringing that up now as a defense of himself, but then saying simultaneously that shock collars don't even hurt anyway so even if she was wearing one it wouldn't be a big deal. That's... well, you know.)
But anyway, like I say, I have never seen someone's dog who is less happy to interact with them. She just seems defeated. She doesn't lick him, she doesn't perk up when he pays attention to her, she just sits there quietly while he's rubbing her head or whatever, and then slowly obeys his commands to come here or go sit on her bed or whatever, with her head down. I realize that's subjective but that is definitely my take on it.
Unless you've watched a lot of his streams, that feels like a pretty big stretch. There could be so many reasons why the dog was behaving in that manner, but there is no excuse for not checking on it when you think it's in pain.
As he has said in previous streams, he doesn't care about the health of dogs because "they're just dogs". He has admitted to owning a shock collar and blamed his dog for being too fat when a guest on his stream pointed out that his dog's collar was way too tight. There are so many red flags against this dude, it is incredibly obvious to anyone who isn't a psychopath that this is a bad dog owner.
I mean, what he said was that his roommate owned a shock collar, and that he was against them. It was a little unclear to me but it didn't exactly sound like he was admitting much of anything in that clip (if the one you have in mind is also the one I'm thinking of).
Twitter is now saying they figured out what collar he has, and that it's the shock version of it that he took the prongs out of and then put black tape on the back of the box, and that's why he was so incredibly hesitant to show it for more than 0.2 seconds or move his hand away from that weird sort of cardshark grip he had the collar in the entire time. I thought about making a separate post with the quick overview video which is all I've seen so far, but I'm honestly mostly done with dealing with this shit at least for tonight and I don't really want to post it and start another kerfuffle until I can look at the details a decent amount myself. Here's that video though (with some irritatingly quick scrolls through a document which lays out some of the details, you'll have to pause to really be able to see anything, but it does make sense if you pause it and look):
https://files.catbox.moe/x0kbh4.mp4
And yes, I agree. The main thing that makes me think he's a POS is his overall tone and emotional affect, and the dog's reactions to him. If she just yelped on stream right after he reached for something, but then his overall way of interacting with her was normal and caring instead of exactly the opposite of that, then I probably wouldn't think twice about it.
He says he bought it and still has it (at the time of the stream that was clipped from). He also said they're incredibly effective. By itself that video doesn't mean much, but there seems to be a consistent trail of evidence against the guy, certainly enough that no sane person would immediately dismiss the concerns.
Maybe. Like I said, the overall body language from the dog, and his tone of voice when he talks about her, and also him lying about objectively verifiable things, mean more to me on the topic than a lot of these clips that people are talking about.
(For example, the fact that back then he was saying that shock collars are mean and he doesn't believe in them, and he's bringing that up now as a defense of himself, but then saying simultaneously that shock collars don't even hurt anyway so even if she was wearing one it wouldn't be a big deal. That's... well, you know.)
But anyway, like I say, I have never seen someone's dog who is less happy to interact with them. She just seems defeated. She doesn't lick him, she doesn't perk up when he pays attention to her, she just sits there quietly while he's rubbing her head or whatever, and then slowly obeys his commands to come here or go sit on her bed or whatever, with her head down. I realize that's subjective but that is definitely my take on it.
Unless you've watched a lot of his streams, that feels like a pretty big stretch. There could be so many reasons why the dog was behaving in that manner, but there is no excuse for not checking on it when you think it's in pain.