Trolls & bots fail to understand or accept that Russia is anything but infinite and inevitable - but numbers are numbers. They've spent half of their entire Soviet inheritance to steal what they sit on today. The war doesn't end when they get to zero vehicles. The half they've squandered is surely the BETTER half, and they still need an army for territorial defense and internal repression. Ukraine is not about the break, and this is probably the best position Russia is ever going to be in. This is the endgame of this messy, abusive Divorce, and Pootz has to come up with some whopper lies to say it was all worthwhile.

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[–] sepi@piefed.social -3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

Russia doesn't have any working nukes. If it did, it would have thrown one at Ukraine. And nobody would give a fuck about it - neither the US nor any other nuclear power would get into it over Ukraine getting nuked. Am ukrainian, before y'all talk any shiz.

[–] JillyB@beehaw.org 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Russia has thousands of nukes. No doubt they aren't in the best shape ever but they don't need all of them to work. And there's no way they'd nuke Ukraine. The rest of the world would ostracize them. You're just wrong.

[–] sepi@piefed.social 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Have you seen these nukes? Do you believe the russians at face value?

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That's a pretty big bet that no country would ever be prepared to make. That's like gambling the guy who broke into your home doesn't have any bullets in his gun

[–] sepi@piefed.social 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If I am punching the guy that broke into my house in the balls repeatedly and he doesn't shoot me, he either has no bullets or no gun.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Or he's concerned about the five other guys with guns trained on him that all have a cautious understanding that nobody should shoot first. The Soviets didn't nuke Afghanistan and America didn't nuke Vietnam, after all

[–] sepi@piefed.social 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Are those others with guns and understanding in the room with Ukraine rigjt now?

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If by "in the room" we mean "in range of Russia", yes

[–] sepi@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

So you're in your house, right? And I'm in my house. Good so far?

So a guy breaks into my house, and I'm punching the guy in the balls repeatedly. And you, in your house, are currently afraid of that guy.

I think this is a perfect analogy for the current situation everybody finds themselves in at the moment.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 1 points 52 minutes ago

Are you seriously trying to suggest that Russia nuking Ukraine would not provoke a serious reaction from the other nuclear powers?

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

This is a horrible take; russia underspent on their army (with current results) to upgrade and refurbish the nuclear forces.

[–] sepi@piefed.social 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The trick is that the money for the nukes was stolen. Nukes have value as a boogey-man and the russians expected everybody to be scared of the idea that they had nukes. You seem to believe them on this front.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Well yes, I am a sane person who watched a nuclear program, monitored by outside observers, be refurbished.

What, you got a really cool youtube video I have to see?

[–] sepi@piefed.social 3 points 14 hours ago

lol what?