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[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago

Weren't grenades originally the same size and weight as baseballs so that people would be used to throwing them?

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago

WWI German grenades had sticks, which increased range a lot at the expense of accuracy.

Americans, raised on baseball, were able to get the pineapple grenades into impossible holes, which made them a lot more effective than the German-style grenade.

[-] Hank@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

I actually heard that reasoning as well but after I read into it I came to the conclusion that this is most likely false. Roundly shaped grenades have been around for centuries and the first introduction of a pineapple-shaped grenades was by the Brits in WW1.
Also a grenade is around three times as heavy as a baseball.
But it makes sense that Americans were/are especially good at throwing grenades because of baseball.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, grenades and baseballs are the same size for the same reason: It's about as big a shape as a person can hold and throw far with a lot of accuracy. It was just a happy coincidence that my grandfather was both on a winning Little League team and the Nazis loved pillboxes with tiny holes. He was part of the 14th Armored and could probably land a grenade in a pillbox from a hundred feet away just like throwing someone out at home from left field.

[-] FireTower@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Round grenades=throwable. Stick grenades=throwable and you have to carry a big fuck off stick too.

Would you rather have more grenades or have your current grenades come with a stick?

Wasn’t the construction of the old “pineapple” also more effective at generating shrapnel when it went off, too?

[-] Hank@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I dove into the Wikipedia article about handgrenades. There's a common separation between offensive and defensive grenades. Those which cause shrapnel are usually considered defensive grenades as they're having a larger, unforseeable area of effect and because of that you want to throw it from a defensive, covered position. But often times offensive grenades which usually cause harm only through their shockwave could easily be upgraded with a metal cover that will provide a shrapnel effect.

[-] Hank@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Grenades are way older than baseball.

[-] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Americans eventually designed them thusly, because Americans like me are simple people who like baseball, cold beer, and throwing explosives at Nazis.

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You should get back to your roots then, lately most of the Nazis are Americans.

[-] m0darn@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

We are so inundated with American news that I'm not at all sure that this is true. We just don't hear about our own problems enough.

[-] Hank@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago

Check out my reply to another comment itt as I did a little research on this topic.

[-] Uncle_Bagel@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

And your typical American boy had more experience throwing baseballs than grenades

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