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Can we define Musk as a traitor now? He is actively interfering in a conflict in an active combat zone the USA has already picked sides in and sided with the enemy.
At the very least, all government contracts and grants should be pulled from SpaceX, Tesla, Starlink, and any other Musk run businesses.
I say nationalize anything with a government contract. Starlink could be extremely useful to the military and musk shouldn't be in charge of anyone's Internet connection, defense contract or not. Military would still get to use it and people would have a taxpayer funded alternative to companies like Comcast.
Can we cut out the middle-part and just send him back to South Africa?
I say put him in one of his old emerald mines. As a slave, not a leader of course
Blind fold him, tie his hands up and drop him off at the Frontline and tell him if he can make it back to America he can have one of his businesses back. Have a camera drone follow him and live stream that shit.
South Africa has suffered enough
Instead let him fly to Russia so he can get his medal.
Or just lock him in a padded cell where they force him to listen to Die Antwoord 24/7.
I know we don't like Musk, but this is going too far
Don't threaten him with a good time
Nah, send him to his father illegal mine in Zambia as a worker.
Love the name, Jason Mantzoukas reference?
ARE THEY A BALCONEY GOBLIN
I HATE BALCONEY GOBLINS
Thank you. It is indeed a reference to Jason Mantzoukas from The Good Place. By far my favorite Derek character on a TV show.
The superior Derek to all other Dereks, I agree!
If he actually did tell his company to take an action that effectively contravened official US policy (and it looks like he did), he broke the law. Specifically, 18 U.S. Code § 953 - Private correspondence with foreign governments:
I am willing to bet that someone in the Ukrainian foreign ministry was aware of this law, and then had some pointed questions for the US State Department on whether or not Elon’s refusal to share intelligence should be taken as an official US position on the matter, and if not, why Elon/SpaceX’s behavior is effectively contradicting official US policy.
This should get interesting, and it could put Elon in some real legal jeopardy on a matter that the US tends to not fuck around with.
I am praying so! I have my popcorn ready and I can't afford to waste it. Lmao
But seriously, I really do want to see some Justice here. He is one man, a private citizen who directly involved himself in foreign affairs and I would believe, he technically committed an act of war by aiding and abetting Russia.
When it happened there was public outcry and as I recall the excuse given was that he had given them Starlink to assist in recovery efforts which is fine. When they started strapping it onto weapons that moved from providing aid to providing weapons to a foreign nation whom at the time was authorized to receive weapons and Starlink isn't an authorized weapons dealer to begin with. So it was shut down as a knee jerk reaction to avoid penalty US arms dealing penalties.
Mind you this is just from my imperfect memory and only hearsay at that, I honestly don't know why six out of every ten articles are about this guy.
Violating the Logan Act is a felony, but since 1799 there have been precisely two indictments and zero convictions.
First time for everything
Probably depends on who is in charge and if they'll indict
Dick Cheney is a war criminal and still walks free, and so does George W Bush, where the fuck do you think Elon learned that shit from? Ha!
Only thing about that though, is that they were all representing our country and had the right to influence policy since we elected them or they were appointed after an election. Elon has no such right. He hasn’t been elected or appointed for anything.
Congress did, when they started treating him like something special and he played them all. He knew he can influence Ukraine war by giving Ukraine free sat connection and then control it by taking it away from them, oldest game in the book.
Man, congress really looks dumb right now.
If Putin were to say Biden was a great guy would that make Biden a traitor? No. Putin is full of shit and he is setting out to create as much trouble as he can to destabilize the western powers who he views as his enemies.
Has putler ever praised Biden? No. This is because Musk is putler's, Biden is not.
For me, it’s not so much the praise from Putin, but Musks own admission that he intentionally hampered the war effort.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/elon-musk-ukraine-starlink-twitter-b2408081.html
What if, we sieze his assets and pay off the US national debt 👍
Pfft.. You and so many other people hear he is worth $200 billion plus and think that is his actual worth lmao. If you sold everything Elon has and liquidated it, it would not come up to $30 billion in cash. US national debt will never ever be paid.
national debt is also in the tens of trillions
Also, a portion of that $200 billion likely directly or indirectly is US debt.
Well, even 10 billion would be nice.
Traitor? He's south african
Merica' fuck yea
He immigrated here. His route went from SA, to Canada, to USA. As an immigrant citizen, I would expect more loyalty.